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2013/5/13 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]>

> +1
>
> Regards
> JB
>
>
> On 05/13/2013 09:46 AM, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>
>> AFAIK, all jar files in the lib folder are added to the classpath, so if
>> anyone want to add jars globally without using bundles, that's the way to
>> go.
>> See
>> https://github.com/apache/**karaf/blob/trunk/main/src/**
>> main/java/org/apache/karaf/**main/Main.java#L266<https://github.com/apache/karaf/blob/trunk/main/src/main/java/org/apache/karaf/main/Main.java#L266>
>>
>> The lib/ext lib/endorsed and lib/karaf-*.jar are used to create the JVM
>> application classloader and make sure the initial environment is quite
>> safe
>> and undisturbed.
>> All other lib/*.jar files are added to the classloader used to create the
>> OSGi framework and should be available
>>
>> For JDBC drivers, they need to be available from the application
>> classloader, so what could be done without changing the current behavior
>> and introducing incompatibilities is to add a lib/app/ folder which would
>> be added to the application classloader (i.e. in the shell scripts).
>>
>> Thoughts ?
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/5/13 Achim Nierbeck <[email protected]>
>>
>>  Hi,
>>>
>>> ok, I'd like to get the discussion into the dev-list away from the jira
>>> issue :-)
>>>
>>> Now, I've heard both sides of the story and tbh, it's not an easy thing
>>> here.
>>> I agree that it's not a understandable solution to have bootloaded jars
>>> with a karaf- prefix.
>>> I'm not sure about the bundle looking for external jars in the lib
>>> folder,
>>> it feels almost like an
>>> extra file-installer thing bound to the lib folder.
>>> @Dan could you please elaborate your use-case for placing your custom
>>> libraries in this folder
>>> and how you use them?
>>>
>>> I also agree that a JDBC driver should be used as a bundle and not like a
>>> bootloader jar, though I'm not sure
>>> if this is also doable for the failover configuration.
>>> One of the comments mentioned that it might be a better solution to look
>>> for bootloaded jars in the
>>> lib/karaf folder. Right now to me it sounds most likely to be the only
>>> working solution. Especially since we
>>> do have those "extra" bundles that are managed by the karaf main class.
>>>
>>> regards, Achim
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/5/13 Freeman Fang <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>  I'm also concerned about this change, added my comment in KARAF-1545
>>>> -------------
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> On 2013-5-13, at 下午1:53, Dan Tran wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have addressed my concerns on this enhancement, and would like to
>>>>>
>>>> hear
>>>
>>>> more from dev group.
>>>>>
>>>>> Big Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> -Dan
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>>
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