Yeah - I wonder if it could be a new geronimo sub project maybe; geronimio using the latest karaf + features stuff etc? Its worth a discussion to see; then maybe more folks could focus on EE in one community using possibly slightly different underlying containers (karaf 1.x / 2.x / 3.x)
On 16 May 2013 11:25, Charles Moulliard <[email protected]> wrote: > Geronimo uses Karaf 1.x and should move to Karaf 2.x but they don't support > all the Karaf functionalities like provisioning mechanism (features XML > files). > Maybe we could discuss with them to see if they can remove that limitation. > > > On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 12:18 PM, James Strachan > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Isn't Geronimo based on Karaf now? If so isn't that a better place to >> unify Karaf & EE? I'm all for diversity and competing implementations; >> I just don't grok how KarafEE would differ from Geronimo; is there >> something KarafEE would do differently to Geronimo from a Karaf >> perspective? >> >> On 16 May 2013 08:21, Charles Moulliard <[email protected]> wrote: >> > BTW. As we have spend time and efforts with Romain to develop KarafEE, >> this >> > is really stupid to loose the code and creating a Karaf subproject is a >> > excellent idea for that purpose. Moreover, as the goal of KarafEE will be >> > slightly different from Geronimo, this project is also very important to >> > host EE features of Karaf (JTA, JPA, ...). >> > The Enterprise features of Karaf could be part of that subproject while >> > Karaf will continue to propose the Standard features file (Spring, >> > Blueprint, Web, HTTP, Management, ...) >> > >> > >> > On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Achim Nierbeck <[email protected] >> >wrote: >> > >> >> Hi Charles, >> >> >> >> I really like the idea of the KarafEE project, though right now I have >> some >> >> doubts. >> >> First of all it looks like it's being a orphaned sub-project at the >> TomEE >> >> Project, so >> >> yes this makes it valid to ask for a transfer, but who's gonna be the >> main >> >> maintainer for it? >> >> Right now we have about already about 4 different subprojects of wich >> only >> >> one is really maintained >> >> right now. EIK for example the main committer just vanished after the >> >> sources had been moved. >> >> I really don't want to end up with another orphaned sub-project in the >> >> karaf space, especially >> >> since right now we're lacking some manpower. >> >> >> >> We still get enough votes for releases, that's a good sign. >> >> On the other hand my gut feeling tells me we're having a decreasing >> size of >> >> active committers for about 6 to 9 Month. >> >> But this is just my humble opinion, I really would love to be proven >> wrong >> >> :D >> >> >> >> regards, Achim >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2013/5/13 Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> > Hi Charles, >> >> > >> >> > wonder if it shouldn't just be a subproject of Geronimo which is >> already >> >> a >> >> > JavaEE/OSGi container on top of Karaf >> >> > >> >> > that said +1 to get it maintained (personally i don't have enough >> time to >> >> > support it as i try to do with TomEE) >> >> > >> >> > *Romain Manni-Bucau* >> >> > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>* >> >> > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*< >> >> > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/> >> >> > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau* >> >> > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau* >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > 2013/5/13 Charles Moulliard <[email protected]> >> >> > >> >> > > Hi, >> >> > > >> >> > > Some weeks ago (thx to Romain and others) we have discussed about >> >> KarafEE >> >> > > future. This project which is until now part of Apache TomEE was an >> >> > attempt >> >> > > to promote JEE concepts top of Karaf Multicontainer OSGI runtime >> (using >> >> > > OpenEJB, OpenJPA & OpenWebbeans). Unfortunately, it will not be >> longer >> >> > > maintained by TomEE contributors and should find a new home. >> >> > > >> >> > > This is mainly the reason why I contact Karaf Dev Team to propose to >> >> > > submit to a vote the following suggestions : >> >> > > [1] : Moving KarafEE code from Apache TomEE to KarafEE as a >> subproject >> >> > > [2] : Propose that KarafEE becomes a Karaf subproject supporting >> OSGI >> >> EE >> >> > > Features (JTA, JPA, EJB, CDI, ...) >> >> > > >> >> > > If everybody agree and both votes succeed, then I propose to >> >> orchestrate >> >> > > the work of moving the code from TomEE to KarafEE, creating doc >> pages >> >> > > describing goals of the projects, ... >> >> > > >> >> > > Regards, >> >> > > >> >> > > -- >> >> > > Charles Moulliard >> >> > > Apache Committer / Sr. Enterprise Architect (RedHat) >> >> > > Twitter : @cmoulliard | Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC >> >> OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/> >> Committer & >> >> Project Lead >> >> OPS4J Pax for Vaadin <http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/PAXVAADIN/Home >> > >> >> Commiter & Project Lead >> >> blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Charles Moulliard >> > Apache Committer / Sr. Enterprise Architect (RedHat) >> > Twitter : @cmoulliard | Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com >> >> >> >> -- >> James >> ------- >> Red Hat >> >> Email: [email protected] >> Web: http://fusesource.com >> Twitter: jstrachan, fusenews >> Blog: http://macstrac.blogspot.com/ >> >> Open Source Integration >> > > > > -- > Charles Moulliard > Apache Committer / Sr. Enterprise Architect (RedHat) > Twitter : @cmoulliard | Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com -- James ------- Red Hat Email: [email protected] Web: http://fusesource.com Twitter: jstrachan, fusenews Blog: http://macstrac.blogspot.com/ Open Source Integration
