FYI,
Achim is working on the Tomcat support in Pax Web.
Regards
JB
On 05/16/2013 01:18 PM, Charles Moulliard wrote:
- I wonder if it could be a new geronimo sub project maybe; geronimio using
the latest karaf + features stuff etc ?
Interesting question that Geronimo team should address. As we are using
Jetty as Web Container and not Tomcat, don't start the server in the same
way, loads the lib using a different approach - classloader, provision the
platform in a completely different way (they are using modules -
https://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC30/geronimo-modules.html which are not
bundles), our objectives (KarafEE vs Geronimo) are perhaps completely
opposites.
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 12:29 PM, James Strachan
<[email protected]>wrote:
Yeah - I wonder if it could be a new geronimo sub project maybe;
geronimio using the latest karaf + features stuff etc? Its worth a
discussion to see; then maybe more folks could focus on EE in one
community using possibly slightly different underlying containers
(karaf 1.x / 2.x / 3.x)
On 16 May 2013 11:25, Charles Moulliard <[email protected]> wrote:
Geronimo uses Karaf 1.x and should move to Karaf 2.x but they don't
support
all the Karaf functionalities like provisioning mechanism (features XML
files).
Maybe we could discuss with them to see if they can remove that
limitation.
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 12:18 PM, James Strachan
<[email protected]>wrote:
Isn't Geronimo based on Karaf now? If so isn't that a better place to
unify Karaf & EE? I'm all for diversity and competing implementations;
I just don't grok how KarafEE would differ from Geronimo; is there
something KarafEE would do differently to Geronimo from a Karaf
perspective?
On 16 May 2013 08:21, Charles Moulliard <[email protected]> wrote:
BTW. As we have spend time and efforts with Romain to develop KarafEE,
this
is really stupid to loose the code and creating a Karaf subproject is
a
excellent idea for that purpose. Moreover, as the goal of KarafEE
will be
slightly different from Geronimo, this project is also very important
to
host EE features of Karaf (JTA, JPA, ...).
The Enterprise features of Karaf could be part of that subproject
while
Karaf will continue to propose the Standard features file (Spring,
Blueprint, Web, HTTP, Management, ...)
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Achim Nierbeck <
[email protected]
wrote:
Hi Charles,
I really like the idea of the KarafEE project, though right now I
have
some
doubts.
First of all it looks like it's being a orphaned sub-project at the
TomEE
Project, so
yes this makes it valid to ask for a transfer, but who's gonna be the
main
maintainer for it?
Right now we have about already about 4 different subprojects of wich
only
one is really maintained
right now. EIK for example the main committer just vanished after the
sources had been moved.
I really don't want to end up with another orphaned sub-project in
the
karaf space, especially
since right now we're lacking some manpower.
We still get enough votes for releases, that's a good sign.
On the other hand my gut feeling tells me we're having a decreasing
size of
active committers for about 6 to 9 Month.
But this is just my humble opinion, I really would love to be proven
wrong
:D
regards, Achim
2013/5/13 Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]>
Hi Charles,
wonder if it shouldn't just be a subproject of Geronimo which is
already
a
JavaEE/OSGi container on top of Karaf
that said +1 to get it maintained (personally i don't have enough
time to
support it as i try to do with TomEE)
*Romain Manni-Bucau*
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http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
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2013/5/13 Charles Moulliard <[email protected]>
Hi,
Some weeks ago (thx to Romain and others) we have discussed about
KarafEE
future. This project which is until now part of Apache TomEE was
an
attempt
to promote JEE concepts top of Karaf Multicontainer OSGI runtime
(using
OpenEJB, OpenJPA & OpenWebbeans). Unfortunately, it will not be
longer
maintained by TomEE contributors and should find a new home.
This is mainly the reason why I contact Karaf Dev Team to
propose to
submit to a vote the following suggestions :
[1] : Moving KarafEE code from Apache TomEE to KarafEE as a
subproject
[2] : Propose that KarafEE becomes a Karaf subproject supporting
OSGI
EE
Features (JTA, JPA, EJB, CDI, ...)
If everybody agree and both votes succeed, then I propose to
orchestrate
the work of moving the code from TomEE to KarafEE, creating doc
pages
describing goals of the projects, ...
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