Hi, If I understood second bullet properly, then, having into account that we have different persistence implementations (the user can use none, one of the implemented or one of his own) , I guess the Hibernate ( which is just used by the JPA persistence module on Data Index, which, by itself, its an optional application of runtimes) licensing issue is not really such big issue, isnt it?
On Thu, Aug 7, 2025 at 4:34 PM PJ Fanning <fannin...@apache.org> wrote: > I do not see any exemption to ASF requirements based on a lib having the > classpath exception. > https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html > > Apologies, I had a couple of typos in my last mail. Here is the corrected > version: > > Linking to GPL licensed libs is only ok if > * we don't ship the lib in our convenience binaries - users need to > install it themselves > * the KIE product should be able to work without the GPL lib - ie the GPL > license lib usage is optional > > On 2025/08/07 13:11:31 PJ Fanning wrote: > > Linking to GPL licensed libs is only ok if > > * we don't ship the lib in out convenience binaries - users need to > install it themselves > > * the KIE product should work with the GPL lib - ie the GPL license lib > usage is optional > > > > On 2025/07/23 14:20:31 Jason Porter wrote: > > > Okay, cool. As long as we’re all okay with the dependencies and how > they line up with ASF rules, I’m good. > > > > > > -- > > > Jason Porter > > > Software Engineer > > > He/Him/His > > > > > > IBM > > > > > > > > > From: Alex Porcelli <a...@porcelli.me> > > > Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2025 at 08:19 > > > To: dev@kie.apache.org <dev@kie.apache.org> > > > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [DISCUSSION][FYI] Use the external XML and > JSON Mapper libraries instead our internal copies > > > Those would be GPL with classpath exception, which is aligned with JDK > itself. > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2025 at 10:15 AM Jason Porter <jpor...@ibm.com.invalid> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Correct me if I’m wrong, but we’re not able to link to GPL libraries > either. That was a sticking point with Hibernate. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Jason Porter > > > > Software Engineer > > > > He/Him/His > > > > > > > > IBM > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Toni Rikkola <rikk...@apache.org> > > > > Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2025 at 01:53 > > > > To: dev@kie.apache.org <dev@kie.apache.org> > > > > Subject: [EXTERNAL] [DISCUSSION][FYI] Use the external XML and JSON > Mapper libraries instead our internal copies > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Currently we have XML and JSON Mapper libraries in KIE that are > > > > duplicates of identical libraries outside of our code base. The > reason > > > > for forking them in was likely due to an old requirement that we > need to > > > > control all the source at KIE, here at Apache or back at Red Hat. At > > > > this moment this is not true, if it ever was. > > > > > > > > Problem is these libraries are licensed under GPL and if GPL is used > > > > inside an ASL project it consumes everything and the project is then > GPL. > > > > > > > > The plan is to remove our fork and use the originals with the GPL > > > > linking exception. > > > > > > > > > > > > Related ticket: > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-tools/issues/3196 > > > > > > > > Related dev list thread: > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/gsj0mxkzwpcgwztz231tr6tnnx9kxd0g > > > > > > > > Linking exception: > > > > https://openjdk.org/legal/gplv2+ce.html > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPL_linking_exception > > > > > > > > > > > > Toni Rikkola > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@kie.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@kie.apache.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@kie.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@kie.apache.org > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@kie.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@kie.apache.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@kie.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@kie.apache.org > >
