Thanks, Alex.

So, Rishiraj, could you please check that network of dependencies (quarkus
-> hibernate -> springboot) and share your findings with us, before
creating all those PRs ?

I would like to understand if we are going to need such an extensive change
(with all the implications) or if the modification could be limited only to
quarkus.

Thanks!

On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 4:28 PM Alex Porcelli <[email protected]> wrote:

> Gabriele,
>
> That's also a good question, but it's my understanding that there are
> shared areas of the codebase that would have problems with different
> Hibernate versions. But if it's not the case, we could manage - at
> least temporarily - 2 versions of Hibernate.
>
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 10:23 AM Gabriele Cardosi
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > So, Tibor, Alex,
> > are we saying that - due to Hibernate constraints, we have to do both
> > quarkus and springboot upgrade at the same time ?
> >
> > Why, ->exactly<-, the upgrade of Hibernate (for Quarkus) requires the
> > upgrade of Springboot (I mean: it is just a matter of dependencies, or
> also
> > of code)?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 2:38 PM Alex Porcelli <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Tibor,
> > >
> > > Good point! I think we'll have to include the SpringBoot upgrade in
> > > this scope... as Hibernate 7.1.4.Final is part of  Quarkus 3.27.1
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 8:35 AM Tibor Zimányi <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Alex,
> > > >
> > > > for Hibernate 7 I think we also need to upgrade Spring Boot. Not
> sure if
> > > > that is also part of the Quarkus upgrade.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Tibor
> > > >
> > > > Dňa št 8. 1. 2026, 14:33 Alex Porcelli <[email protected]>
> napísal(a):
> > > >
> > > > > Thank you for that Rishiraj - really appreciate it.
> > > > >
> > > > > This upgrade also contributes to compliance for graduation [1], as
> it
> > > > > upgrades Hibernate 7 - which is ASL (vs 6.x LGPL).
> > > > >
> > > > > Yay!
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] - https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-issues/issues/1685
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 5:37 AM Francisco Javier Tirado Sarti
> > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please include me in the review also.
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 9:38 AM Yeser Amer <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you Rishiraj,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm available to help and review your PRs.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yeser
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 2026/01/08 07:11:28 Rishiraj Anand wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > > > > I am working to upgrade quarkus to version 3.27.1 which is
> the
> > > > > latest LTS
> > > > > > > > release. I will soon open ensemble PRs for drools,
> optaplanner,
> > > > > > > > kogito-runtimes, kogito-apps and kogito-examples. Once I
> finish
> > > > > these,
> > > > > > > I'll
> > > > > > > > create a weekly snapshot and then create PR for kie-tools.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Please feel free to share your opinions on the same.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > Rishiraj Anand
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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