As Alex said we need to move to Hibernate 7 since we need to use the version of Hibernate that uses ASL license.

So temporally Springboot can use the older version, but has to move to the new one ASAP. It might be better to do it in one go, depends on the workload.

Toni

On 08/01/2026 17.51, Francisco Javier Tirado Sarti wrote:
In my opinion, unless upgrading hibernate cause a lot of issues on
Springboot, we should keep just one version.
What I'm trying to say is that keeping two different versions of hibernate
(one for quarkus, another for springboot) should be kind of last resort
solution.
I think we need to wait and see

On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 4:49 PM Gabriele Cardosi <[email protected]>
wrote:

Thanks, Alex.

So, Rishiraj, could you please check that network of dependencies (quarkus
-> hibernate -> springboot) and share your findings with us, before
creating all those PRs ?

I would like to understand if we are going to need such an extensive change
(with all the implications) or if the modification could be limited only to
quarkus.

Thanks!

On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 4:28 PM Alex Porcelli <[email protected]> wrote:

Gabriele,

That's also a good question, but it's my understanding that there are
shared areas of the codebase that would have problems with different
Hibernate versions. But if it's not the case, we could manage - at
least temporarily - 2 versions of Hibernate.

On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 10:23 AM Gabriele Cardosi
<[email protected]> wrote:
So, Tibor, Alex,
are we saying that - due to Hibernate constraints, we have to do both
quarkus and springboot upgrade at the same time ?

Why, ->exactly<-, the upgrade of Hibernate (for Quarkus) requires the
upgrade of Springboot (I mean: it is just a matter of dependencies, or
also
of code)?



On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 2:38 PM Alex Porcelli <[email protected]> wrote:

Tibor,

Good point! I think we'll have to include the SpringBoot upgrade in
this scope... as Hibernate 7.1.4.Final is part of  Quarkus 3.27.1

On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 8:35 AM Tibor Zimányi <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hi Alex,

for Hibernate 7 I think we also need to upgrade Spring Boot. Not
sure if
that is also part of the Quarkus upgrade.

Best regards,
Tibor

Dňa št 8. 1. 2026, 14:33 Alex Porcelli <[email protected]>
napísal(a):
Thank you for that Rishiraj - really appreciate it.

This upgrade also contributes to compliance for graduation [1],
as
it
upgrades Hibernate 7 - which is ASL (vs 6.x LGPL).

Yay!

[1] - https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-issues/issues/1685


On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 5:37 AM Francisco Javier Tirado Sarti
<[email protected]> wrote:
Please include me in the review also.
Thanks

On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 9:38 AM Yeser Amer <[email protected]>
wrote:
Thank you Rishiraj,

I'm available to help and review your PRs.

Yeser

On 2026/01/08 07:11:28 Rishiraj Anand wrote:
Hi All,
I am working to upgrade quarkus to version 3.27.1 which is
the
latest LTS
release. I will soon open ensemble PRs for drools,
optaplanner,
kogito-runtimes, kogito-apps and kogito-examples. Once I
finish
these,
I'll
create a weekly snapshot and then create PR for kie-tools.

Please feel free to share your opinions on the same.

Thanks
Rishiraj Anand


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