Hi,

Moreover, the current Spring Boot version we are using (3.4.x) reached the end 
of OSS (Open Source Support) on December 31, 2025 [1].
It would be wise to address this soon—whether together with the Quarkus update 
or as a separate task, I’d suggest tackling it in the short term.

[1] https://endoflife.date/spring-boot

On 2026/01/08 15:51:26 Francisco Javier Tirado Sarti wrote:
> In my opinion, unless upgrading hibernate cause a lot of issues on
> Springboot, we should keep just one version.
> What I'm trying to say is that keeping two different versions of hibernate
> (one for quarkus, another for springboot) should be kind of last resort
> solution.
> I think we need to wait and see
> 
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 4:49 PM Gabriele Cardosi <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
> > Thanks, Alex.
> >
> > So, Rishiraj, could you please check that network of dependencies (quarkus
> > -> hibernate -> springboot) and share your findings with us, before
> > creating all those PRs ?
> >
> > I would like to understand if we are going to need such an extensive change
> > (with all the implications) or if the modification could be limited only to
> > quarkus.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 4:28 PM Alex Porcelli <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Gabriele,
> > >
> > > That's also a good question, but it's my understanding that there are
> > > shared areas of the codebase that would have problems with different
> > > Hibernate versions. But if it's not the case, we could manage - at
> > > least temporarily - 2 versions of Hibernate.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 10:23 AM Gabriele Cardosi
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > So, Tibor, Alex,
> > > > are we saying that - due to Hibernate constraints, we have to do both
> > > > quarkus and springboot upgrade at the same time ?
> > > >
> > > > Why, ->exactly<-, the upgrade of Hibernate (for Quarkus) requires the
> > > > upgrade of Springboot (I mean: it is just a matter of dependencies, or
> > > also
> > > > of code)?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 2:38 PM Alex Porcelli <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Tibor,
> > > > >
> > > > > Good point! I think we'll have to include the SpringBoot upgrade in
> > > > > this scope... as Hibernate 7.1.4.Final is part of  Quarkus 3.27.1
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 8:35 AM Tibor Zimányi <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Alex,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > for Hibernate 7 I think we also need to upgrade Spring Boot. Not
> > > sure if
> > > > > > that is also part of the Quarkus upgrade.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > Tibor
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dňa št 8. 1. 2026, 14:33 Alex Porcelli <[email protected]>
> > > napísal(a):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you for that Rishiraj - really appreciate it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This upgrade also contributes to compliance for graduation [1],
> > as
> > > it
> > > > > > > upgrades Hibernate 7 - which is ASL (vs 6.x LGPL).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yay!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [1] - https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-issues/issues/1685
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 5:37 AM Francisco Javier Tirado Sarti
> > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Please include me in the review also.
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 9:38 AM Yeser Amer <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thank you Rishiraj,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm available to help and review your PRs.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yeser
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 2026/01/08 07:11:28 Rishiraj Anand wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > > > > > > I am working to upgrade quarkus to version 3.27.1 which is
> > > the
> > > > > > > latest LTS
> > > > > > > > > > release. I will soon open ensemble PRs for drools,
> > > optaplanner,
> > > > > > > > > > kogito-runtimes, kogito-apps and kogito-examples. Once I
> > > finish
> > > > > > > these,
> > > > > > > > > I'll
> > > > > > > > > > create a weekly snapshot and then create PR for kie-tools.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Please feel free to share your opinions on the same.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > Rishiraj Anand
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
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