@Ted, @Julian, @Shaofeng, Cheers! Thanks for the encouragement.
best regards, Roland On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 3:23 AM, Shi, Shaofeng <[email protected]> wrote: > +1 We appreciate all inputs to the project; it is you let us knowing how > we’re doing and what we need to improve; Thanks very much for your > feedback! > > On 9/22/15, 8:46 AM, "Ted Dunning" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >Good questions never need apologies. > > > >Yours was an excellent question and could only be (vaguely) criticized as > >not being in its own thread. > > > >Good on you for participating! > > > > > >On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 12:11 PM, Julian Hyde <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Roland, > >> > >> Apology not necessary. Your question raises a common misconception about > >> graduation. As you know Apache values “community over code”, and the > >> graduation criteria are basically “is the community healthy?” and places > >> virtually no constraints on the code (beyond a commitment to IP > >>hygiene). > >> > >> Your point about portability across Hadoop distributions is very valid. > >>I > >> think you should log a jira case and post the URL on this list. I expect > >> the Kylin community will take it seriously — before or after graduation. > >> > >> Julian > >> > >> > >> > On Sep 21, 2015, at 2:01 AM, Roland Bouman <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > Hi Ted, > >> > > >> > thanks for the reply. > >> > > >> >> But that notwithstanding, do you think that documentation is a > >> > requirement for graduation from incubation as top-level project? > >> > > >> > I think I spoke too early - my remark was based on a personal > >>assumption > >> > and not founded in the guidelines. > >> > > >> > I apologise for the distraction and will take care to check my > >> assumptions > >> > in the future. > >> > > >> > Best regards, > >> > > >> > Roland. > >> > > >> > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 5:17 AM, Ted Dunning <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> >> Roland, > >> >> > >> >> Documentation is definitely a good thing for a project to work on and > >> your > >> >> highlighting of the need for installation instructions for a wider > >> range of > >> >> environments tallies nicely with goal CD30 on the Apache project > >> maturity > >> >> goals [1]. > >> >> > >> >> But that notwithstanding, do you think that documentation is a > >> requirement > >> >> for graduation from incubation as top-level project? > >> >> > >> >> It seems to me that it is not described as such on the graduation > >> >> guidelines [2] and that the goal of incubation is for the project to > >> learn > >> >> how to make Apache releases, not so much to finish the software or > >> >> documentation. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> [1] > >> >> > >> > >> > https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.htm > >>l > >> >> > >> >> [2] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#checklist > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Roland Bouman > >><[email protected] > >> > > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> Personally I believe that before graduation, there should be > >>reliable > >> >>> documentation that explains how to install Kylin on top of stock > >>apache > >> >>> hadoop components (not "hdp" or some other distro), with an account > >>of > >> >>> which versions of which required components are compatible with > >>which > >> >>> version of kylin. > >> >>> > >> >>> my 2cts. > >> >>> > >> >>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 3:35 AM, Xiaoyu Wang <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>>> Now Kylin is very stable,and running for a long time in my > >> environment. > >> >>>> I think it's time to graduate! > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> 在 2015年09月21日 09:05, [email protected] 写道: > >> >>>> > >> >>>>> agree，we had benefited a lot from kylin! > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> 中国移动广东有限公司 网管中心 梁猛 > >> >>>>> [email protected] > >> >>>>> From: Luke Han > >> >>>>> Date: 2015-09-20 21:30 > >> >>>>> To: [email protected] > >> >>>>> Subject: About Kylin graduation > >> >>>>> Hi community, > >> >>>>> We would like to raise this discussion about graduate Apache > >> >> Kylin > >> >>> to > >> >>>>> be > >> >>>>> TLP (top level project). > >> >>>>> As discussion between PMC members, we are thinking it's > >>already > >> >>> to > >> >>>>> process graduation process, but we also would like to hear more > >> >> feedback > >> >>>>> from entire Kylin community. > >> >>>>> Please feel free to leave your comments here. > >> >>>>> Thank you very much. > >> >>>>> See the policy [1] and guidelines [2]. > >> >>>>> [1] > >>http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html > >> >>>>> [2] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html > >> >>>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> -- > >> >>> Roland Bouman > >> >>> blog: http://rpbouman.blogspot.com/ > >> >>> twitter: @rolandbouman > >> >>> linkedin: > >>http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=5142800&trk=tab_pro > >> >>> > >> >>> Author of "Pentaho Solutions" (Wiley, ISBN: 978-0-470-48432-6 > >> >>> http://tinyurl.com/lvxa88) and "Pentaho Kettle Solutions" (Wiley, > >> ISBN: > >> >>> 978-0-470-63517-9 http://tinyurl.com/33r7a8m) > >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Roland Bouman > >> > blog: http://rpbouman.blogspot.com/ > >> > twitter: @rolandbouman > >> > linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=5142800&trk=tab_pro > >> > > >> > Author of "Pentaho Solutions" (Wiley, ISBN: 978-0-470-48432-6 > >> > http://tinyurl.com/lvxa88) and "Pentaho Kettle Solutions" (Wiley, > >>ISBN: > >> > 978-0-470-63517-9 http://tinyurl.com/33r7a8m) > >> > >> > > -- Roland Bouman blog: http://rpbouman.blogspot.com/ twitter: @rolandbouman linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=5142800&trk=tab_pro Author of "Pentaho Solutions" (Wiley, ISBN: 978-0-470-48432-6 http://tinyurl.com/lvxa88) and "Pentaho Kettle Solutions" (Wiley, ISBN: 978-0-470-63517-9 http://tinyurl.com/33r7a8m)
