[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 8/30/05, Michael Wechner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Browser-based applications should put as much information on a single
page in a single column (two table columns for label and information)
with a single "Save Everything" button at the bottom.  Vertical
scrolling is good.  Tabs (each with their own Save buttons) are bad.
Combining all of the tabs into a single page would be a major
improvement.
you might want to do a mockup of your ideas, which
would help to discuss possible refactoring of the site area

Check out:
http://test.solprovider.com/lenyasite/

cool

The changes are:
1. Tabs combined and removed.
2. Information reorganized for usability.

it seems to me that Lenya specific data (which is generic for
all documents) and Meta data (which can be document or publication specific)
should be cleary separated.

3. "Add Language" added to page.  (did not remove from menu)
3. "Navigation Title" added to page, and removed from menus.
4. "Navigation Visibility" added to page, and removed from menus.
5. "New Asset" added to page (no second page needed)
6. "New Scheduled Job"  added to page (no second page needed)
7. "Save all changes" button added.

Pull-down menus are understood by almost everyone and are not as
unproductive as tabs,

I don't fully understand what you mean. Can you explain a bit more?

but button/links on the page are more visible
and easier to understand, especially when placed in context.  See the
"New Language" button for an example.  Repeatedly explaining to every
content manager to use the Edit menu for changing the Menu Title or
the Visibility is frustrating.

More possible improvements:
1. The Workflow menu could be moved onto the page.
2. "New document" and "Move Up/Down" (or better, "Move to Here" and
"Move After" icons in context) could be moved to icons on the left
menu.  This could make the left menu rather messy.

The difficult part will be making the dynamic tables work.  Best would
probably be to refresh the page, remembering all the values that have
been changed but not saved.  It might need a "Revert to last saved
values" button.

it seems to me that this is one of the major problems. Let's say
I have a changed some Meta data and at the same time I will revert
to an older document version ... Where do I click? I think this
leads to very confusing situations and it seems to me that this
the major reasons for keeping separate screens for the different tasks.

Michi

Enjoy,
solprovider

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