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which was the point I was going to make... you might as well just pay them a salary... what's my job??? "I do nothing, as I can extort money from people with threats of DOS attacks"

I'm assuming if they come back, the company will pay again as it's cheaper to fund criminals than stop them....

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Is anyone else reading this with concern? Surely it's a slippery slope if you pay criminals extortion/blackmail money?! What will you do if they come back again?

Ade

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Sent: 22 April 2005 09:54
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By the way its a way cheaper to pay them off than the infrastructure needed to combat a DDOS attack. Obviously what they are doing is illegal and I am not saying you should pay but the fact is it could cost you about �20000 a year in hardware/bandwidth/etc for a BASIC defence and �500/�1000 to pay them off. We got attacked twice in two years and spent the money on DDOS defence and when they attacked again we couldn't handle it. Look at the numbers and make your choice. Maybe if the companies are bigger they will ask for more money, I don't know.

Remember you always depend on your upstream router cos when you get attacked
you have to ask them to start filtering to stop the attack reaching you. If
they don't respond then 100Mb can be expensive!
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  From: Tomo
  To: Allan Cliff ; Coldfusion Development
  Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 10:03 AM
  Subject: Re: [CF-Dev] cfhttp error


are you saying you paid these people to stop the attack?

  Allan Cliff wrote:
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  >
  > We have been DDOSsed and we had to pay to make them stop.
  > The second time we put in some hardware to stop it with a 100Mb
burstable
  > line behind and it even filled that up (estimated at a 150Mb attack).
Time
  > to pay again.
  > We were only a small company and could not do anything to stop it. It
was
  > just out of our league.
  > Maybe a company like M$ would have the bandwidth to cope?!?
  > But someone like protx probably wouldn't have more than 100Mb. Even if
you
  > do have that bandwidth,  IP changes / DNS changes the DDosers are
usually
  > only 15 minutes behind you.
  >
  > You then depend on the upline routers to filter stuff out and unless you
  > have plenty of influence they aren't interested, and if they are you
have to
  > find the person who knows how to configure the filters. They prefer to
block
  > calls to the whole domain rather than filter out the crappy packets.
  >
  > Some 12 year old romanians have nothing better to do! LOL.
  > My 2p worth
  >
  > Allan
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