>- see footer for list info -< I would go back and continue my support ticket with MM, but my hard drive frazzled the other day and I lost all my email.
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Allan Sent: 01 June 2005 09:20 To: Coldfusion Development Subject: Re: [work] RE: [CF-Dev] CFMX7 sandboxing >- see footer for list info -< And just to follow on from this. I've been in talks with someone running on OSX and apparently sandboxing with multiple instances works as expected. So, this is potentially a Windows issue, i.e. possibly permissions. Andy Quoting Andy Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >- see footer for list info -< > Funnily enough I was having a discussion about this today and yeah, I > can only get it to work on the default instance. With the other > instances I get a security exception error. > > For accessing them I'm just using the default instances through jrun > like yourself. > > I know there is a technote in the making on this, though I wish they'd > hurry up about it because the docs are way too light on material. > > Snake wrote: > > >>- see footer for list info -< > >> > >> > >Just to bring this up again. > >Andy, did you do anything else other than add those JVM arguments to get it > >working? > >I have tested this again myself in case what you put in your blog was > >different from what was on the MM site, and it only gets sandboxes working > >in the default instance, they still do nothing in the other instances. > > > >How are you accessing the CFADMIN on the other instances, through the jrun > >server or via IIS. > >I am just using the default, running through the jrun server on a different > >port for each instance. > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russ Michaels > >(Snake) > >Sent: 24 May 2005 17:06 > >To: 'Coldfusion Development' > >Subject: RE: [work] RE: [CF-Dev] CFMX7 sandboxing > > > > > > > >>- see footer for list info -< > >> > >> > >I was discussing this with MM support before I went away, and they have > >concluded that each instance needs it's own java.config file for the > >sandboxing to work properly. Which means you then have to edit the windows > >service to run JRUN with this config file, and the instance manager in CFMX7 > >becomes useless. > > > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Allan > >>Sent: 04 May 2005 21:38 > >>To: Coldfusion Development > >>Subject: Re: [work] RE: [CF-Dev] CFMX7 sandboxing > >> > >> > >> > >>>- see footer for list info -< > >>> > >>> > >>You need to add a couple of additional JVM arguments to get > >>Sandboxing to work on both Multiserver and J2EE config installs. > >> > >>So it does work, just not out of the box like you would > >>expect. I blogged about it today (watch the wrap) > >>http://www.creative-restraint.co.uk/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry&; > >>entry=A7038D2C-933C-C47E-510C9D5E61402BA4 > >> > >>Cheers, > >>Andy > >> > >>Russ Michaels (Snake) wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>>- see footer for list info -< > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>Confirmation now received from MM. > >>> > >>><quote> > >>>Russ, > >>> > >>>I tested this and you are correct, it does not work in my > >>> > >>> > >>J2EE install, > >> > >> > >>>which is the same as Multi-Instance version. The standalone must be > >>>doing something different. > >>> > >>>I will ask at the meeting in a few hours. > >>> > >>>Thanks, > >>>Mike > >>></quote> > >>> > >>>Rather a hulking great bug this I think. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > >>>> > >>>> > >>Russ Michaels > >> > >> > >>>>(Snake) > >>>>Sent: 12 April 2005 12:43 > >>>>To: 'Coldfusion Development' > >>>>Subject: RE: [work] RE: [CF-Dev] CFMX7 sandboxing > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>- see footer for list info -< > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>You can setup two instances on two servers and cluster them yes. > >>>> > >>>>The test is pretty simple. > >>>>Install CFMX7 using the multi-server option. > >>>> > >>>>On the default instance Enable sandboxing. > >>>>Create a default sandbox on the drive where all web sites > >>>> > >>>> > >>are stored. > >> > >> > >>>>E.G. > >>>>D:\ > >>>>And disable the usual tags:- cfffile, cfdirectory, cfexecute, > >>>>cfregistry etc Now setup a site on your D drive (E.G. > >>>>d:\wwwroot\mydomain.com) Put a .cfm file in there that uses > >>>> > >>>> > >>any of the > >> > >> > >>>>disabled tags. > >>>> > >>>>On CFMX7 stand alone you will get an error stating you do not have > >>>>permission to perform that action. Exactly as expected. > >>>>On ANY instance of CFMX using multi-server install, the > >>>> > >>>> > >>page will work > >> > >> > >>>>fine ignoring the sandbox. > >>>> > >>>>I also have quite different setups on the 3 servers I tested. > >>>> > >>>>Russ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>I'm downloading the trial CF7 edition, is it possible to > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>set up a test > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>across 2 servers/ip's with it. > >>>>>Maybe you have a blog somewhere on the way you verified its > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>broken:)? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Colm > >>>>> > >>>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>Russ Michaels > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>(Snake) > >>>>>Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 11:04 PM > >>>>>To: 'Coldfusion Development' > >>>>>Subject: RE: [work] RE: [CF-Dev] CFMX7 sandboxing > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>- see footer for list info -< > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>I am saying it doesn't work, because it doesn't work. > >>>>>Of course it should work, that's the purpose of it. > >>>>>But 3 different servers running the multi-server > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>installation is not a > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>fluke. > >>>>> > >>>>>Russ > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>Colm Brazel > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>Sent: 11 April 2005 19:45 > >>>>>>To: Coldfusion Development > >>>>>>Subject: RE: [work] RE: [CF-Dev] CFMX7 sandboxing > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>- see footer for list info -< > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>"furthermore, developers can take advantage of the ability > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>to set up > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>instance-specific sandbox security". > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>I don't understand why you say security sandboxing won't > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>work, as I > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>understand it, from the above it should and across > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>different servers > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>and be instance specific?? > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Colm > >>>>>> > >>>>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>Russ Michaels > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>(Snake) > >>>>>>Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 6:00 PM > >>>>>>To: 'Coldfusion Development' > >>>>>>Subject: RE: [work] RE: [CF-Dev] CFMX7 sandboxing > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>- see footer for list info -< > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>Erm.. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>No really? > >>>>>>That will be why I am using it then, and what all my posts > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>have been > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>about. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Russ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>Colm Brazel > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>Sent: 11 April 2005 16:07 > >>>>>>>To: Coldfusion Development > >>>>>>>Subject: RE: [work] RE: [CF-Dev] CFMX7 sandboxing > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>- see footer for list info -< > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>"furthermore, developers can take advantage of the ability > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>to set up > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>instance-specific sandbox security"...before he goes into > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>clustering > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>below.. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>Colm Brazel > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:58 PM > >>>>>>>To: Coldfusion Development > >>>>>>>Subject: [work] RE: [CF-Dev] CFMX7 sandboxing > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>- see footer for list info -< > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>Security sandboxing doesn't work on CFMX7 in multi-server > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>configuration. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Trick is to use Jrun.. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>According to Greg Stewart in that article I mentioned using > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>JRUN 'you > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>can package these tailored instances and then redeploy them > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>on another > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>instance or even a different server running JRUN' he > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>mentionds Brandon > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>Purcell's article, "Advantages of using multiple instances for > >>>>>>>Coldfusion MX for J2EE: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/coldfusion/j2ee/articles/multiple.html > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>Colm > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>Russ Michaels > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>(Snake) > >>>>>>>Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 2:48 PM > >>>>>>>To: 'Coldfusion Development' > >>>>>>>Cc: 'ColdFusion Guru List' > >>>>>>>Subject: [work] [CF-Dev] CFMX7 sandboxing > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>- see footer for list info -< > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>I appear to have found a bug. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Security sandboxing doesn't work on CFMX7 in multi-server > >>>>>>>configuration. > >>>>>>>I have tested this on 3 separate servers that were installed as > >>>>>>>multi-server, and on ALL of them, the sandboxes have no effect. > >>>>>>>Disabled tags continue to work. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Testing on CFMX7 in stand alone configuration, the > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>sandboxes work > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>>fine. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Russ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>For details on ALL mailing lists and for joining or leaving > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>lists, go > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>to http://list.cfdeveloper.co.uk/mailman/listinfo > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>-- > >>>>>>>CFDeveloper Sponsors:- > >>>>>>> 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