>- see footer for list info -< I'll keep knocking on doors to see if I can get an answer as I didn't get an indication of when the technote, which I assume will cover this, is going to appear.
Andy Quoting Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >- see footer for list info -< > I would go back and continue my support ticket with MM, but my hard drive > frazzled the other day and I lost all my email. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Allan > Sent: 01 June 2005 09:20 > To: Coldfusion Development > Subject: Re: [work] RE: [CF-Dev] CFMX7 sandboxing > > >- see footer for list info -< > And just to follow on from this. I've been in talks with someone running on > OSX > and apparently sandboxing with multiple instances works as expected. > > So, this is potentially a Windows issue, i.e. possibly permissions. > > Andy > > Quoting Andy Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > >- see footer for list info -< > > Funnily enough I was having a discussion about this today and yeah, I > > can only get it to work on the default instance. With the other > > instances I get a security exception error. > > > > For accessing them I'm just using the default instances through jrun > > like yourself. > > > > I know there is a technote in the making on this, though I wish they'd > > hurry up about it because the docs are way too light on material. > > > > Snake wrote: > > > > >>- see footer for list info -< > > >> > > >> > > >Just to bring this up again. > > >Andy, did you do anything else other than add those JVM arguments to get > it > > >working? > > >I have tested this again myself in case what you put in your blog was > > >different from what was on the MM site, and it only gets sandboxes > working > > >in the default instance, they still do nothing in the other instances. > > > > > >How are you accessing the CFADMIN on the other instances, through the > jrun > > >server or via IIS. > > >I am just using the default, running through the jrun server on a > different > > >port for each instance. > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russ Michaels > > >(Snake) > > >Sent: 24 May 2005 17:06 > > >To: 'Coldfusion Development' > > >Subject: RE: [work] RE: [CF-Dev] CFMX7 sandboxing > > > > > > > > > > > >>- see footer for list info -< > > >> > > >> > > >I was discussing this with MM support before I went away, and they have > > >concluded that each instance needs it's own java.config file for the > > >sandboxing to work properly. Which means you then have to edit the > windows > > >service to run JRUN with this config file, and the instance manager in > CFMX7 > > >becomes useless. > > > > > > > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Allan > > >>Sent: 04 May 2005 21:38 > > >>To: Coldfusion Development > > >>Subject: Re: [work] RE: [CF-Dev] CFMX7 sandboxing > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>- see footer for list info -< > > >>> > > >>> > > >>You need to add a couple of additional JVM arguments to get > > >>Sandboxing to work on both Multiserver and J2EE config installs. > > >> > > >>So it does work, just not out of the box like you would > > >>expect. I blogged about it today (watch the wrap) > > >>http://www.creative-restraint.co.uk/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry&; > > >>entry=A7038D2C-933C-C47E-510C9D5E61402BA4 > > >> > > >>Cheers, > > >>Andy > > >> > > >>Russ Michaels (Snake) wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>>- see footer for list info -< > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>Confirmation now received from MM. > > >>> > > >>><quote> > > >>>Russ, > > >>> > > >>>I tested this and you are correct, it does not work in my > > >>> > > >>> > > >>J2EE install, > > >> > > >> > > >>>which is the same as Multi-Instance version. The standalone must be > > >>>doing something different. > > >>> > > >>>I will ask at the meeting in a few hours. > > >>> > > >>>Thanks, > > >>>Mike > > >>></quote> > > >>> > > >>>Rather a hulking great bug this I think. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>-----Original Message----- > > >>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>Russ Michaels > > >> > > >> > > >>>>(Snake) > > >>>>Sent: 12 April 2005 12:43 > > >>>>To: 'Coldfusion Development' > > >>>>Subject: RE: [work] RE: [CF-Dev] CFMX7 sandboxing > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>>- see footer for list info -< > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>You can setup two instances on two servers and cluster them yes. > > >>>> > > >>>>The test is pretty simple. > > >>>>Install CFMX7 using the multi-server option. > > >>>> > > >>>>On the default instance Enable sandboxing. > > >>>>Create a default sandbox on the drive where all web sites > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>are stored. > > >> > > >> > > >>>>E.G. > > >>>>D:\ > > >>>>And disable the usual tags:- cfffile, cfdirectory, cfexecute, > > >>>>cfregistry etc Now setup a site on your D drive (E.G. > > >>>>d:\wwwroot\mydomain.com) Put a .cfm file in there that uses > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>any of the > > >> > > >> > > >>>>disabled tags. > > >>>> > > >>>>On CFMX7 stand alone you will get an error stating you do not have > > >>>>permission to perform that action. Exactly as expected. > > >>>>On ANY instance of CFMX using multi-server install, the > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>page will work > > >> > > >> > > >>>>fine ignoring the sandbox. > > >>>> > > >>>>I also have quite different setups on the 3 servers I tested. > > >>>> > > >>>>Russ > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>>I'm downloading the trial CF7 edition, is it possible to > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>set up a test > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>>across 2 servers/ip's with it. > > >>>>>Maybe you have a blog somewhere on the way you verified its > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>broken:)? > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>>Colm > > >>>>> > > >>>>>-----Original Message----- > > >>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>Russ Michaels > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>>(Snake) > > >>>>>Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 11:04 PM > > >>>>>To: 'Coldfusion Development' > > >>>>>Subject: RE: [work] RE: [CF-Dev] CFMX7 sandboxing > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>- see footer for list info -< > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>I am saying it doesn't work, because it doesn't work. > > >>>>>Of course it should work, that's the purpose of it. > > >>>>>But 3 different servers running the multi-server > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>installation is not a > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>>fluke. > > >>>>> > > >>>>>Russ > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>-----Original Message----- > > >>>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>Colm Brazel > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>>>Sent: 11 April 2005 19:45 > > >>>>>>To: Coldfusion Development > > >>>>>>Subject: RE: [work] RE: [CF-Dev] CFMX7 sandboxing > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>- see footer for list info -< > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>"furthermore, developers can take advantage of the ability > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>to set up > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>instance-specific sandbox security". > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>I don't understand why you say security sandboxing won't > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>work, as I > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>>>understand it, from the above it should and across > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>different servers > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>and be instance specific?? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>Colm > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>-----Original Message----- > > >>>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>Russ Michaels > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>(Snake) > > >>>>>>Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 6:00 PM > > >>>>>>To: 'Coldfusion Development' > > >>>>>>Subject: RE: [work] RE: [CF-Dev] CFMX7 sandboxing > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>- see footer for list info -< > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>Erm.. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>No really? > > >>>>>>That will be why I am using it then, and what all my posts > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>have been > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>about. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>Russ > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>-----Original Message----- > > >>>>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>Colm Brazel > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>>Sent: 11 April 2005 16:07 > > >>>>>>>To: Coldfusion Development > > >>>>>>>Subject: RE: [work] RE: [CF-Dev] CFMX7 sandboxing > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>- see footer for list info -< > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>"furthermore, developers can take advantage of the ability > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>to set up > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>instance-specific sandbox security"...before he goes into > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>clustering > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>below.. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>-----Original Message----- > > >>>>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>Colm Brazel > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>>Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:58 PM > > >>>>>>>To: Coldfusion Development > > >>>>>>>Subject: [work] RE: [CF-Dev] CFMX7 sandboxing > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>- see footer for list info -< > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>Security sandboxing doesn't work on CFMX7 in multi-server > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>configuration. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>Trick is to use Jrun.. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>According to Greg Stewart in that article I mentioned using > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>JRUN 'you > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>can package these tailored instances and then redeploy them > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>on another > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>instance or even a different server running JRUN' he > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>mentionds Brandon > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>Purcell's article, "Advantages of using multiple instances for > > >>>>>>>Coldfusion MX for J2EE: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/coldfusion/j2ee/articles/multiple.html > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>>Colm > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>-----Original Message----- > > >>>>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>Russ Michaels > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>(Snake) > > >>>>>>>Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 2:48 PM > > >>>>>>>To: 'Coldfusion Development' > > >>>>>>>Cc: 'ColdFusion Guru List' > > >>>>>>>Subject: [work] [CF-Dev] CFMX7 sandboxing > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>- see footer for list info -< > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>I appear to have found a bug. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>Security sandboxing doesn't work on CFMX7 in multi-server > > >>>>>>>configuration. > > >>>>>>>I have tested this on 3 separate servers that were 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