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Kev, thanks. I'm not sure if that will work because even if cfmail is looped
over to send 1000 emails each iteration, it's ColdFusion's mail spool
process that monitors the spool directory and sends the emails to the SMTP
server. It will still attempt to do that in a single session regardless of
how many cfmail iterations or even individual cfml requests were made to
generate the email files.

Snake, I hear what you're saying about splitting it into multiple staggered
requests. That would require a cfc to capture the initial email sending
request and then cfschedule several separate requests of, say, batches of
2,000 emails each about 2 minutes apart, then finally a scheduled task to
delete the previous tasks. Could get messy with the number of requests our
server deals with and if there are a couple of separate user requests to
send 5,000 email each around about the same time then the spool directory
may exceed the threshold where the SMTP session closes and CF shrugs and
gives up.

We're already using MailEnable for incoming SMTP only, not outbound. The
free version is pretty good, but the problem I encountered sounds more like
a limitation with CF's handling of SMTP sessions (i.e. not understanding
what to do if a session is terminated) rather than a limitation of Microsoft
SMTP.

Thanks for your time on a Sunday. :-)

Gary.

On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 9:23 PM, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> If you go into the SMTP service properties, click on the "messages" tab,
> here you will find a number of settings that will cause you such problems.
> You will probably need to increase all of them.
>
> Although if you are going to doing bulk mailings, I would not rely on the
> SMTP server that comes with IIS. You should have a dedicated SMTP server,
> or
> at the very least install something that gives you more control and better
> logging. There are a number of decent mail server products that come with
> free versions.
>
> E.G.
> SmarterMail
> hMailServer
> MailEnable
>
> You should also stagger your mail-out and not do so many in a single
> query/request.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary
> Sent: 26 October 2008 20:09
> To: Coldfusion Development
> Subject: [CF-Dev] cfmail capacity limit, CF8 with Win2003 SMTP
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>  Hi CF'ers. :-) Has anyone encounted a limit sending emails from CF8 via a
> Windows 2003 SMTP server? Using <cfmail query="myMailingList"> with at
> least
> 4,000 email addresses in the query, about 50 to 300 emails aren't sent and
> end up in the undeliverable directory.
>
> CF logs this error: "552 4.3.1 Session size exceeds fixed maximum session
> size"
>
> Adobe advised me to increase the SMTP session size limit above the default
> 2Mb recommended by Microsoft. Okay, I increased it to 5Mb but if I try to
> send over 10,000 emails I run into the same problem. Increasing the session
> limit is *not* the correct solution. I feel this is a bug in CF that
> prevents it from understanding what to do if SMTP closes the session. CF
> should simply open up a new session and carry on making sure to resend the
> last emails that weren't accepted by the SMTP server.
>
> Anyone willing to share their experience or insight will be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Gary.
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