Hi Peter

Yes Intershop can be load balanced, on a simple level by installing sybase
on a separate machine. Or if you have lots of money you could start playing
with cisco local directors which would load balance the web side of things.

To be honest I don't know to much about SecureIIS. We use Cisco Pix
firewalls here and their are no problems. If you are worried about iis all
you have to do is take out the dodgy extensions and apply the latest iis
security patches and you should have no problems.

I've worked a fair bit with product variations, they're a bit tricky.  But
if you let me know the specific problem i'll see what I can do

hth

Mark

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From: Peter Harrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 31 July 2002 14:16
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(speaking from where I used to work) We used Intershop 4, but it conflicted
with SecureIIS (application-level firewall from www.eeye.com) and therefore
it was no surprise that it was taken out by hackers in China because we
couldn't check for buffer overflows in IIS. We had to drop the box and it
was never brought up again. Coincidently, nor did we use Intershop again.
All e-commerce projects since then were done in CF and did not conflict with
SecureIIS.

We also had problems with product variations (can't remember what now, but
take some time to check it out anyway).

I liked the idea of the plugins that came with it. I didn't like the idea
that if Intershop moved from Perl to some other language that the plugins
would need to be rewritten.

Can Intershop be load-balanced (hardware/software)?

- Peter H.

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No problems at all - any half-decent developer will pick it up fine.

I was playing about with Intershop4 at the time, which was great for our
purposes. Can't speak for current versions though.

R


-----Original Message-----
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Thanks Ross :)

What do you make of developing with Intershop?

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I used Systems Union when I was at Candric and they were faultless -
recommend them if you go the Intershop route.

Took me about 5 days to customise the store templates. The cost for the
hosted store was around �250/month I believe, but that was around summer
2000 I think.

Anyway - couldn't fault them when we used them,

Cheers,

Ross

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 31 July 2002 11:27
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not the expert there i've build a couple of Intershop stores in the
past,
thats it (i try and avoid intershop where possible so I can concentrate
on
CF)

but we've built and hosted over loads of intershop stores in the past so
a
couple of the guys who have been here years  are real pros. Feel free to
give me a buzz and i'll put you through to them 01865 880800

We're also actinic partners, but havn't used it in anger yet.  But one
of
the guys has been evaluating it for us

mark smyth



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ok, how about more details of the hosting, to start with.  what is
required
for this?


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                    Please respond to

                    dev








we're an intershop partner here, its a good solution - bit expensive on
the
hosting side

what do you want to know?

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I think just the Business and Developer editions have the content
management stuff, but it's pretty vague about what that consists of, so
chances are it's pretty simple stuff.

thanks for the info.  Anyone used Intershop or any other products like
this?


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Duncan,

There's a bit of a learning curve to Actinic, although the latest
version
is
a lot better than previous because it links in with Dreamweaver, so
modifying the templates is easier. But its still a bit of work if you
want
to break far enough from the standard layouts.

Basically its a good product for the price. Once you've built the
templates
you just give it to the client to enter all their products. They have
the
software on their computer and that is used to synchronise the data with
the
web server, and download the orders.

As for content management (other than the catalogue), I didn't even know
it
had one. What I've done in the past is added a ColdFusion RMS for the
news
articles, feedback etc.

As long as you're not going to do some excessive customisation, its
pretty
quick for developing the commerce side of the site... but I couldn't
give
you any idea of how much quicker because it depends on so many things...
how
quickly you learn how to develop in actinic, what design you want to
use,
what customisation if any. All that crap.

Best bet is to grab the 30 day trial off the site and play with it for a
day.

Taz

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> Can anyone who's ever used Actinic (Catalog, Business, Developer or
> whatever), maybe give me their opinion of it?  In particular, did it
save
a
> lot of development time?  eg did it save upwards of 75% of dev time
for
> doing the ecommerce section of a site?  Or closer to 50%?  What about
the
> Content Management aspects of it - ie for creating and updating
content
> that isn't part of the products / shop, was it any use or too limited?
>
> Got a potential client wanting to use it to reduce the development
costs
of
> getting us to do a bespoke solution, and squeezing as much as possible
into
> it.  However if it still requires us to do a lot of work just to get
it
up
> and running properly, overall saving might be minimal, so any
information
> or opinions on this would be appreciated.
>
> ta very much
>
>
> Duncan Cumming
> IT Manager
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