there's quality help in this dev list.

there may be the odd chatter e-mail but thats more than made up for by the
breadth of CF/JS/Flash/Hosting/Systems/SQL/HTML/style knowledge thats in
here, and thats invaluable. Its quite common to have questions in here
answered in more depth, with better language and quicker than CF-Talk etc...
There's very rarely a question that goes unanswered in here.

now [EMAIL PROTECTED] - thats where the real craziness lies.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paolo Piponi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 20 August 2002 17:31
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] quiet
> 
> 
> People chat on this list because often it is very quiet. 
> However, when I've
> needed help I've always found an answer from you guys. It's 
> not the busiest
> list, but it's certainly well supported. I'd rather have a 
> small group of
> wise developers than a large groups of hit and miss teens.
> 
> On the subject of CF growth: The fact there are more sites 
> might just be
> because as time goes by more sites are created, not because there is
> proportionally greater demand. CF is definately bigger than 
> it was 2 years
> ago, but I'd be dubious about growth from 12 months ago.
> 
> However, I await more stats from the guys in the know.
> 
> Paolo
> 
> PS This message in not on chat because I think it's relevant 
> to this list.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Russ 'Snake' Michaels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 20 August 2002 17:07
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] quiet
> > 
> > 
> > that's why we have the chat list.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lucas Sherwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 20 August 2002 17:03
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] quiet
> > 
> > 
> > just throwing in my two cents worth...
> > 
> > the main thing that scares people about this list is the 
> > signal to noise
> > ratio... there is often useless banter between a small group 
> > of people that
> > barrage people wiht mails - this tends to turn people off (IMHO)
> > 
> > L.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paolo Piponi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 4:45 PM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] quiet
> > 
> > 
> > Well, looking at my email history that contains all 18653 
> > items on this list
> > since July 1999, most people mail less than 10 times. Then 
> > there's a small
> > group who have mailed between 200 and 1200. I've mailed 267 
> > (now 268). The
> > top mailers, of course, have mailed over 1200. With an 
> > estimate of say 50
> > words per email that means some of you have mailed the 
> > equivalent of an
> > average novel.
> > 
> > Unfortunately, as my job hunting has proved, all CF 
> > Developers are probably
> > already on this list, since there's little demand for CF. 
> > Thankfully, we've
> > pulled off a deal, my job is safe, and I am no longer on the agency
> > scrounge.
> > 
> > What we probably need are more CF users. What's the news on 
> CF growth
> > generally, compared to ASP/.NET? (Russ, no comments from you 
> > :-) Has CF got
> > any chance?
> > 
> > Paolo
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Russ 'Snake' Michaels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 20 August 2002 16:03
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] quiet
> > >
> > >
> > > have to get some more people on here then.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Matt Horn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 20 August 2002 16:01
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] quiet
> > >
> > >
> > > They call this place
> > >
> > > Tumbleweed list
> > >
> > > if you listen VERY closely you can almost hear it blow by
> > >
> > > the developers .. they were here
> > > but now .. they have all gone to Chat
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 15:50 20/08/02 +0100, you wrote:
> > > >This list has become very quiet of late.
> > > >
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