definitely.  I just wanted to clarify that if a customerr asks for an
estimate and they are concerned about WAI compliance, it should not drive
your estimate up very much.  Also, if you have an understanding of what it
takes to make a site WAI compliant, being able to tell a potential client
that your estimate/proposal is for a WAI compliant site, might mean the
difference between their choosing your services over the competition!

~Simon

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-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Harrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 January 2004 14:33
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London)


It really boils down to the customer's choice.

- Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 January 2004 14:04
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London)


like I said - definitely check out those articles.  They outline the answers
to the question of who this effects very well.  It also addesses how to make
code WAI compliant... which does not really take as long as you'd think...
not if you account for it in the begining and have some coding standards in
place.  Anyone who tells you it takes a lot more man-hour time to develop
something that is WAI compliant is just wrong.  What does take a little bit
longer is Q/A... obviously if you want to comply with something (WAI or ANY
OTHER STANDARD OUT THERE) it is going to mean testing to make sure you
comply.  The actual coding bit doesn't have to take much (or any) longer.
There are also, like I said, a bunch of standard practices you can use that
will tend to result in compliant code.

~Simon

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-----Original Message-----
From: EWS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 January 2004 13:54
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London)


Guys,

Just wading through the WAI for valid information regarding my former
employers clients that I wnat to poach (sorry, new clients that have
nothing to do with my former employer but want accessibility). What is the
law regarding commercial / eCommerce sites as it stands now. I am confused
over legality and whether it is discrimination yet if an ecommerce site is
not accessible.

the act seems to say that anybody providing a service to the public. does
this mean eCommerce sites?

On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 13:26:51 -0000, Paul Fennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://www.w3.org/WAI/  :)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 07 January 2004 13:20
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London)
>
> is it any coincidence that WAI sounds like "why?"
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: 07 January 2004 13:17
>> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>> Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London)
>>
>>
>> I da know, read the job description, I work here already :OP

>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: 07 January 2004 13:09
>> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>> Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London)
>>
>>
>> er.. yes.
>>
>> (whats WAI mean?)
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Sent: 07 January 2004 13:09
>> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>> > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London)
>> >
>> >
>> > Yeah, but is he WAI compliant?
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Peter Harrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Sent: 07 January 2004 13:04
>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London)
>> >
>> >
>> > He's da McDonalds of Potatochop!
>> >
>> > - Peter
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Sent: 07 January 2004 12:59
>> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>> > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London)
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>> >
>> > Why, are you a dab hand at Photoshop? :O)
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Sent: 07 January 2004 08:43
>> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>> > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London)
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>> > hmmm. good timing.
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>> > > Sent: 06 January 2004 17:58
>> > > To: Cfug Dev List (E-mail)
>> > > Subject: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London)
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