Are there any standard/recommended testing tools or software .. or is it
just choice what you test it with atm ?

Stephen

-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 January 2004 14:43
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London)

hmm, but you said it takes extra time testing it, which is certainly the
case. How can that not ramp up an estimate? Unless "very much" is a
relative
term.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 07 January 2004 14:37
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London)
> 
> 
> definitely.  I just wanted to clarify that if a customerr 
> asks for an estimate and they are concerned about WAI 
> compliance, it should not drive your estimate up very much.  
> Also, if you have an understanding of what it takes to make a 
> site WAI compliant, being able to tell a potential client 
> that your estimate/proposal is for a WAI compliant site, 
> might mean the difference between their choosing your 
> services over the competition!
> 
> ~Simon
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Harrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 07 January 2004 14:33
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London)
> 
> 
> It really boils down to the customer's choice.
> 
> - Peter
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 07 January 2004 14:04
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London)
> 
> 
> like I said - definitely check out those articles.  They 
> outline the answers to the question of who this effects very 
> well.  It also addesses how to make code WAI compliant... 
> which does not really take as long as you'd think... not if 
> you account for it in the begining and have some coding 
> standards in place.  Anyone who tells you it takes a lot more 
> man-hour time to develop something that is WAI compliant is 
> just wrong.  What does take a little bit longer is Q/A... 
> obviously if you want to comply with something (WAI or ANY 
> OTHER STANDARD OUT THERE) it is going to mean testing to make 
> sure you comply.  The actual coding bit doesn't have to take 
> much (or any) longer. There are also, like I said, a bunch of 
> standard practices you can use that will tend to result in 
> compliant code.
> 
> ~Simon
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: EWS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 07 January 2004 13:54
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London)
> 
> 
> Guys,
> 
> Just wading through the WAI for valid information regarding 
> my former employers clients that I wnat to poach (sorry, new 
> clients that have nothing to do with my former employer but 
> want accessibility). What is the law regarding commercial / 
> eCommerce sites as it stands now. I am confused over legality 
> and whether it is discrimination yet if an ecommerce site is 
> not accessible.
> 
> the act seems to say that anybody providing a service to the 
> public. does this mean eCommerce sites?
> 
> On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 13:26:51 -0000, Paul Fennell 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > http://www.w3.org/WAI/  :)
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 07 January 2004 13:20
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London)
> >
> > is it any coincidence that WAI sounds like "why?"
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: 07 January 2004 13:17
> >> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> >> Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London)
> >>
> >>
> >> I da know, read the job description, I work here already :OP
> 
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: 07 January 2004 13:09
> >> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> >> Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London)
> >>
> >>
> >> er.. yes.
> >>
> >> (whats WAI mean?)
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > Sent: 07 January 2004 13:09
> >> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> >> > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Yeah, but is he WAI compliant?
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Peter Harrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > Sent: 07 January 2004 13:04
> >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > He's da McDonalds of Potatochop!
> >> >
> >> > - Peter
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > Sent: 07 January 2004 12:59
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> >> > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Why, are you a dab hand at Photoshop? :O)
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > Sent: 07 January 2004 08:43
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> >> > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > hmmm. good timing.
> >> >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
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> >> > > Sent: 06 January 2004 17:58
> >> > > To: Cfug Dev List (E-mail)
> >> > > Subject: [ cf-dev ] Job Opening (London)
> >> > >
> >> > >
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