I don't think that's true though Neil- you can't argue that there's a
major degradation of experience on anything other than a Flash site and
why you need a site to be in Flash is in most cases questionable. 

If you manage/ own a public space then you have to follow certain
procedures- if everyone could get away with it then there would be very
little disabled access etc -- then you would have a two tier exclusive
situation. The same is true of websites, they are a public space in a
similar sense.

I do agree it may be difficult to prosecute larger companies tho...

-----Original Message-----
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
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Sent: 16 April 2004 13:14
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Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Website accessibility in the UK

I would be very very surprised if someone could successfully proceed
with a
case and win against a site which does not include or adhere to
accessibility "guidelines" - agree with Taz, its entirely up to the
freedom
of speech and thought how you move forward with a site.... 

There would be uproar if someone shut a site down as in some cases you
could
counter the whole scenario by saying that by making it accessible may
lead
to the whole experience being degraded which means able-bodied (or
whatever
term you want to use) are being discriminated against.....

It's a no win situation whatever way you look at it.




-----Original Message-----
From: Taz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 April 2004 13:04
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Website accessibility in the UK

> well, the DRC _is_ the enforcenment body, and if you read the foreword

> of the report Bert Massie, the (disabled) Chair, states quite clearly 
> that
they
> will be launching actions against companies, or supporting disabled 
> people who want to do so. They have the power to close web sites down 
> if, after advising about the issues, the site takes no notice/action.

I'll apologise in advance for being politically incorrect, but I can't
fathom why it should be illegal for a site not to be accessible to every
user.

Effectively it's more of a problem for the company involved, who may be
losing a potential revenue stream, but essentially it's up to them who
they
target their advertising and services at.

Okay, so you could call it discrimination, but then by the same token
you
could argue that book publishers are being discriminatory by not making
all
of their books available in Braille or audio. In fact, why aren't we
getting
sued for not translating sites into 60 different languages? Hey, that's
xenophobia isn't it? Chinese sites for all! 2 billion people can't all
be
wrong.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for accessibility for all. And since nearly
all
of my work has to conform to RNIB guidelines (among others), I tend to
build
in accessibility from the start. But I get the feeling that all this
political correctness is getting just a little out of hand.

I agree that sites should be accessible to as many people as possible.
But
if the Government want to get the electronic UK on the map as the best
in
the world, why don't they offer incentives to businesses to implement
these
things, instead of the draconian attitude of biting off the hand that's
paying taxes.

Oh crap! I've gone all serious again.

Nob Giblets!

Taz


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