OK lets have a discussion about this shall we. Depends what u want doesn't it. If you want the cheapest possible hosting, don't care about support or being able to contact people during normal office hours, then your suggestion is the way to go. If you want to call your host and speak to people who know about coldfusion and can provide technical support and assistance, if you want to get replies to emails from people that actually have a clue and are not just giving canned responses, and will know why your application is not working, then you go to specialist host, not a cheap one. Will a cheap host install custom components, tags, etc for you, do they understand and support things like fusebox, mach-II, farcry, etc.
Most cheap hosts will not provide sandboxing, again because they do not have enough technical knowledge to understand ColdFusion security, or do not have the staff to manually set this up for each customer, or cannot afford to run CF enterprise. So they will leave all tags enabled and your code and data is totally insecure, or they will disable all dangerous tags and your code will not work. A cheap host wont even know if or why some tags should be disabled. They may disable cfexecute, cfregistry, cffile and that's it. They don't know that cfhttp, cfmail, cfpop all allow you to read/write files anywhere on the server. In fact most developers don't even know these things. You rely on these companies to keep your data safe and secure, so you expect them to know more about security than you do. We often have to explain to customers/developers why certain tags are disabled and need a sandbox, and they are then shocked at how insecure their applications are or how useless their last host was. Cheap hosts signup customers in bulk and cannot afford to employ technical staff to provide that kind of support. Nor do they really care about support either. The smaller specialist niche host is always going to provide you a better service than the big cheap we do ASP/PHP/perl/IHTML/CF/.NET all on the same server type hosts. And how do you think the performance of servers if affected by that lot all running on it. You have 100% more chance of server downtime for each extra technology that is running on a server using up more threads, more memory and potentially crashing. If you want PHP hosting you should go to a host that specialises in only PHP or at least have PHP only servers, and the same for Coldfusion. But you get what you pay for. You pay peanuts, you get monkey's Is Tesco VALUE products just as good as the more expensive ones, usually not. Most people have to learn the lesson the hard way though. But then all that aside, USA hosts will be cheaper than UK, because hardware and bandwidth is cheaper over there. So as long as you don't have any problems with the time difference and not being able to speak to anyone until after 5pm, and your site is for Americans and not UK residents and you thus do not care about connectivity issues and reliance on U.S carrier, then hosting in the states will save you money. And this is an objective opinion base don my own experience and experiences of customers who have gone the cheap route and been burnt. Notice I didn't actually plug CFMxhosting once in this rant. Russ > -----Original Message----- > From: John Beynon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 17 August 2004 14:48 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] cfmx hosting > > you get so much more for your money if you host outside of > the UK, sorry to all UK hosts here! > > Hostmysite.com top CFMX package is $30 a month and for that > you get, 500 Mb storage > 15 gb transfer > 250 pop accounts > 50mb SQL 2000 Db > unlimited DSNs > > show me a UK company that can give me all that for that > amount of money a month and i'll move all my sites back to > the UK. Average support response any time of day i've > encountered with HMS was about 20 minutes!!! > > jb. > > > > > On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 14:35:16 +0100, Paul Swingewood > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Russ, > > > > It looks like my client will be going with CFMXhosting.co.uk (If I > > could just get through to one of you on the phone) > > > > I have an application.cfm file like this > > > > <cfset application.dsn = "sqlshoes"> > > <cfset name="Application.TaxRate" default="0.175"> <cfset > > application.catsubcatdirectory ="e:/inetpub/wwwroot/store/images"> > > <cfset application.ImageDirectory = "images"> <cfset > > application.ProductDirectory = "images/products"> <cfset > > application.uploaddirectory = > > "e:/inetpub/wwwroot/store/images/products"> > > > > How do I make the code look for the path names etc dynamically? > > > > Also I am using the cffile tag as thus ... > > > > <cffile action ="UPLOAD" > > filefield ="bigpic" > > nameconflict = "overwrite" > > accept = "image/jpg, image/pjpeg" > > destination = "#application.uploaddirectory#"> > > <cfif #file.filewassaved# eq "yes"><!--- Was the big pic > saved? ---> > > <cfset bigpic = '#trim(file.serverfile)#'> > > <CFQUERY NAME="addItem" datasource="#application.DSN#"> > > > > Having never used a sandbox will the code stay the same and I alter > > some setting via your system? > > > > > > > > Regards - Paul > > > > -- > > These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at > > http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > > Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > > > > CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and > support provided > > by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* > > *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow > provided by proworkflow.com* > > *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by > > gradwell.com* > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -- > These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at > http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > > CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- > *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: > *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* > *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow > provided by proworkflow.com* > *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists > hosted by gradwell.com* > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
