I’d like to propose the following in relation to the email chain below and the discussions that took place on the TSC call yesterday. I’ve created an Etherpad (hoping OpenStack doesn’t mind us using their Etherpad server for collaboration) with a copy of README.md from the contrail-installer repo. I suggest that everyone who feels inclined to help should go through the Etherpad and update it with any corrections they’ve found in getting their environment set up. I’ve also created a companion Etherpad for questions/problems that people were not able to solve.
After the developer meeting next Wednesday I will take the contents of the Etherpad and merge them back into the contrail-installer repo as a hopefully more complete and more accurate procedure that people can follow with more success and less guesswork. The URLs are: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oc-tscwg-installer https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oc-tscwg-installer-QandA If/when you edit the first Etherpad, please use Markdown syntax if you need formatting, don’t use Etherpad’s formatting toolbar. I would like to just copy and paste it back into the Git repo where GitHub will automatically render the Markdown formatting. For the second Etherpad, you can use the formatting toolbar if you want to. I don’t plan for that second Etherpad to be long lived, it’s just to gather questions and discussion topics aimed at fixing the README.md file. -- Paul Carver VoIP: 732-545-7377 Cell: 908-803-1656 E: pcar...@att.com<mailto:pcar...@att.com> Q Instant Message<qto://talk/pc2929> It is difficult to make predictions. Especially about the future. From: Edward Ting [mailto:lti...@lenovo.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 23:04 To: Gasparakis, Joseph <joseph.gaspara...@intel.com>; Sukhdev Kapur <sukh...@juniper.net>; Yang, Yi Y <yi.y.y...@intel.com>; Gregory Elkinbard <gelkinb...@juniper.net>; CARVER, PAUL <pc2...@att.com>; dev@lists.opencontrail.org; Rudra Rugge <rru...@juniper.net> Subject: RE: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda Sounds good to me. Let’s work on the fix together next week. In the meantime, Yi, feel free to unicast me if you’d like to see my notes earlier than that. Cheers, Edward From: Gasparakis, Joseph [mailto:joseph.gaspara...@intel.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 6:40 PM To: Sukhdev Kapur; Edward Ting; Yang, Yi Y; Gregory Elkinbard; CARVER, PAUL; dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>; Rudra Rugge Subject: RE: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda Sure, we can discuss but more importantly it is better to put together a taskforce to get this done: - Edward said they have some fixes - Valentine during the TSC call also mentioned that probably they can contribute their process to build and deploy - Paul with the rest of Infrastructure group are also putting the CI/CD in place - I have mentioned in the past have a way to build OpenContrail (but not deploy) Combining all the above we should be able to fix the issue sooner rather than later. I can pull the above people together and start working on this. Output will be documentation (worse case) or chef/pupper/ansible manifests at best… And Yi: I think you are recently started catching with the community up. This issue has been identified long ago, we all know about it, people (especially Infrastructure committee and other outside) work on a fix. It doesn’t happen overnight and it is up to all of us to put “our house in order”. So let’s see how we can do our share moving forward ;-) So, any volunteers to put some sort of OpenContrail installation together (single or multi node) to start with please let us know and I will pull everyone together next week. Regards, Joseph From: Sukhdev Kapur [mailto:sukh...@juniper.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:58 PM To: Edward Ting <lti...@lenovo.com<mailto:lti...@lenovo.com>>; Yang, Yi Y <yi.y.y...@intel.com<mailto:yi.y.y...@intel.com>>; Gregory Elkinbard <gelkinb...@juniper.net<mailto:gelkinb...@juniper.net>>; CARVER, PAUL <pc2...@att.com<mailto:pc2...@att.com>>; Gasparakis, Joseph <joseph.gaspara...@intel.com<mailto:joseph.gaspara...@intel.com>>; dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>; Rudra Rugge <rru...@juniper.net<mailto:rru...@juniper.net>> Subject: Re: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda Edward, Yi, et. all, I am the newest member of the OpenContrail team and have had my share of issues trying to install OpenContrail. Therefore, I do appreciate what you are saying. I am all for documenting the issues and solutions so that, as a community, we can all leverage from each other’s pain points and solutions. Having said that, why don’t we come up with a place “OpenContrail User Central” (or something like that) where we can start to post these kinds of solutions/fixes so that other can leverage from each other’s work. Joseph, shall we discuss this in our next TSC meeting? -Sukhdev From: Edward Ting <lti...@lenovo.com<mailto:lti...@lenovo.com>> Date: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 4:43 PM To: "Yang, Yi Y" <yi.y.y...@intel.com<mailto:yi.y.y...@intel.com>>, Gregory Elkinbard <gelkinb...@juniper.net<mailto:gelkinb...@juniper.net>>, "CARVER, PAUL" <pc2...@att.com<mailto:pc2...@att.com>>, Sukhdev Kapur <sukh...@juniper.net<mailto:sukh...@juniper.net>>, "Gasparakis, Joseph" <joseph.gaspara...@intel.com<mailto:joseph.gaspara...@intel.com>>, "dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>" <dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>>, Rudra Rugge <rru...@juniper.net<mailto:rru...@juniper.net>> Subject: RE: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda We have tried contrail-installer (4 different developers) on Ubuntu 16.04 with DevStack Ocata (Mitaka is no longer available). It can bring all component ‘Active’ after try-and-error fixing broken steps, but not fully functional. We are more than happy to contribute our ‘fixes’ to where we are and work with the community together to complete the last missing pieces. Thanks, Edward From: Dev [mailto:dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org] On Behalf Of Yang, Yi Y Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:33 PM To: Gregory Elkinbard; CARVER, PAUL; Sukhdev Kapur; Gasparakis, Joseph; dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>; Rudra Rugge Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda Understood, but as an open source community, you Juniper guys are to learn how to leverage community resources, I believe many people can contribute to these documents or https://github.com/Juniper/contrail-installer<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_Juniper_contrail-2Dinstaller&d=DwMGaQ&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=Y9QaEJ2cs4La8kQDqQ-N2rBJnxrPyFqAIO8efLhSqZ0&m=UENkYoX6DDteZmRSmfgQUxmxxbuNE1Au8qeoMu_YRiw&s=zRPvHM2gVJjlmogAMa1v0oPnc_fuoGVVutAlBgTyh0g&e=> if someone of you can provide necessary and quick response about the issues developers found. You must make sure people can install and use it first if you hope to have more developers and users. From: Gregory Elkinbard [mailto:gelkinb...@juniper.net] Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 8:23 AM To: Yang, Yi Y <yi.y.y...@intel.com<mailto:yi.y.y...@intel.com>>; CARVER, PAUL <pc2...@att.com<mailto:pc2...@att.com>>; Sukhdev Kapur <sukh...@juniper.net<mailto:sukh...@juniper.net>>; Gasparakis, Joseph <joseph.gaspara...@intel.com<mailto:joseph.gaspara...@intel.com>>; dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>; Rudra Rugge <rru...@juniper.net<mailto:rru...@juniper.net>> Subject: Re: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda Folks, I appreciate that we have a deficit in usability. However Amazon demo scripts can be used today to build a multi-vm environment in Amazon. It is semi-latest Cannonical OpenStack and OpenContrail 4.0.1. The scripts set up the whole environment for you. Just fill out few things. I know this is not stuff that can run on desktops and is not useful for a true development pipeline. I am simply trying to avoid having people show up to a developer meeting cold, without even basic open contrail knowledge. Once the CI system is up we will have a set of running single VM scripts. But my choice right now is to stop the development and have people write the docs. Or finish the development, launch the community CI and then write the docs. Thanks Greg From: "Yang, Yi Y" <yi.y.y...@intel.com<mailto:yi.y.y...@intel.com>> Date: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 4:16 PM To: Gregory Elkinbard <gelkinb...@juniper.net<mailto:gelkinb...@juniper.net>>, "CARVER, PAUL" <pc2...@att.com<mailto:pc2...@att.com>>, Sukhdev Kapur <sukh...@juniper.net<mailto:sukh...@juniper.net>>, "Gasparakis, Joseph" <joseph.gaspara...@intel.com<mailto:joseph.gaspara...@intel.com>>, "dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>" <dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>>, Rudra Rugge <rru...@juniper.net<mailto:rru...@juniper.net>> Subject: RE: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda Greg, but install has been a big obstacle for developers, can you help provide an existing guide document for an easier installation way for developer? I mean OpenContrail + Openstack in vagrant VMs (or hardware platforms if impossible), don’t tell me to use binary installation in Ubuntu 14.04 ☺ From: Dev [mailto:dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org] On Behalf Of Gregory Elkinbard Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 8:06 AM To: CARVER, PAUL <pc2...@att.com<mailto:pc2...@att.com>>; Sukhdev Kapur <sukh...@juniper.net<mailto:sukh...@juniper.net>>; Gasparakis, Joseph <joseph.gaspara...@intel.com<mailto:joseph.gaspara...@intel.com>>; dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>; Rudra Rugge <rru...@juniper.net<mailto:rru...@juniper.net>> Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda I would recommend that folks who do come, at least 1) install and play with contrail demo. 2) read the architecture spec Thanks Greg From: "CARVER, PAUL" <pc2...@att.com<mailto:pc2...@att.com>> Date: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 2:21 PM To: Sukhdev Kapur <sukh...@juniper.net<mailto:sukh...@juniper.net>>, Gregory Elkinbard <gelkinb...@juniper.net<mailto:gelkinb...@juniper.net>>, "Gasparakis, Joseph" <joseph.gaspara...@intel.com<mailto:joseph.gaspara...@intel.com>>, "dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>" <dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>>, Rudra Rugge <rru...@juniper.net<mailto:rru...@juniper.net>> Subject: RE: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda The more questions the better. The ideal would be no slides and all questions, answers and discussions. No formal pre-work is required, but I would encourage anyone who is contemplating any Contrail development to spend a little time thinking about what you think your development steps will be and make a list of anything that you’re unsure about. The goal of this session is to get developers up to speed, so the more specific examples we have of either obstacles or simply things that ought to be covered in a getting started guide but aren’t will be helpful. I’m hoping to create the beginnings of a developer FAQ based on what questions people have. -- Paul Carver VoIP: 732-545-7377 Cell: 908-803-1656 E: pcar...@att.com<mailto:pcar...@att.com> Q Instant Message<qto://talk/pc2929> It is difficult to make predictions. Especially about the future. From: Dev [mailto:dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org] On Behalf Of Sukhdev Kapur Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 17:09 To: Gregory Elkinbard <gelkinb...@juniper.net<mailto:gelkinb...@juniper.net>>; Gasparakis, Joseph <joseph.gaspara...@intel.com<mailto:joseph.gaspara...@intel.com>>; dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>; Rudra Rugge <rru...@juniper.net<mailto:rru...@juniper.net>> Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda Joesph, Greg: There is not pre-work required. Just come, bring an attitude to learn things, and bring your questions. We have few speakers identified to cover this 4-hour session. Rudra and I will cover the Overall architecture We have additional speakers to cover Controller, analytics, and testing areas. I am working on getting some slides that we will use to cover the architecture. HTH -Sukhdev From: Gregory Elkinbard <gelkinb...@juniper.net<mailto:gelkinb...@juniper.net>> Date: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 1:59 PM To: "Gasparakis, Joseph" <joseph.gaspara...@intel.com<mailto:joseph.gaspara...@intel.com>>, "dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>" <dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>>, Rudra Rugge <rru...@juniper.net<mailto:rru...@juniper.net>>, Sukhdev Kapur <sukh...@juniper.net<mailto:sukh...@juniper.net>> Subject: Re: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda Rudra, Sukhdev, You own this session. Can you please respond. Thanks Greg From: "Gasparakis, Joseph" <joseph.gaspara...@intel.com<mailto:joseph.gaspara...@intel.com>> Date: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 1:49 PM To: Gregory Elkinbard <gelkinb...@juniper.net<mailto:gelkinb...@juniper.net>>, "dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>" <dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>> Subject: RE: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda Greg, For Dec 6th 1:00- 5:00 Developer Track: Is there any pre-work required? Thanks Joseph From: Dev [mailto:dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org] On Behalf Of Gregory Elkinbard Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 11:32 AM To: dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org> Subject: [opencontrail-dev] Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YA0X1GYcAMhcXAhjdSnq_WWmhQKV6pHwkK3PSu9V3e4/edit?usp=sharing<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1YA0X1GYcAMhcXAhjdSnq-5FWWmhQKV6pHwkK3PSu9V3e4_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwMGaQ&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=VQrMBvKeploIeBocya36pOwODBVDvmbjFqFgowqJuhs&m=vEKkTAAAOb3NmoHBAXY0AWuX0eVFStYoTOP-OrZc-8I&s=3wijA4l3khom5fOwRia9ZvVZy6jmKoDcDFeWzaW3mfE&e=>
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