Hi Greg,

Do we plan to video record these sessions?

Thanks,
Aniket


On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 5:37 PM, Sukhdev Kapur <sukh...@juniper.net> wrote:

> +1
>
> Thank you, Paul
>
>
>
> -Sukhdev
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *"CARVER, PAUL" <pc2...@att.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 6:12 AM
> *To: *Edward Ting <lti...@lenovo.com>, "Gasparakis, Joseph" <
> joseph.gaspara...@intel.com>, Sukhdev Kapur <sukh...@juniper.net>, "Yang,
> Yi Y" <yi.y.y...@intel.com>, Gregory Elkinbard <gelkinb...@juniper.net>, "
> dev@lists.opencontrail.org" <dev@lists.opencontrail.org>, Rudra Rugge <
> rru...@juniper.net>
>
> *Subject: *RE: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda
>
>
>
> I’d like to propose the following in relation to the email chain below and
> the discussions that took place on the TSC call yesterday. I’ve created an
> Etherpad (hoping OpenStack doesn’t mind us using their Etherpad server for
> collaboration) with a copy of README.md from the contrail-installer repo. I
> suggest that everyone who feels inclined to help should go through the
> Etherpad and update it with any corrections they’ve found in getting their
> environment set up. I’ve also created a companion Etherpad for
> questions/problems that people were not able to solve.
>
>
>
> After the developer meeting next Wednesday I will take the contents of the
> Etherpad and merge them back into the contrail-installer repo as a
> hopefully more complete and more accurate procedure that people can follow
> with more success and less guesswork. The URLs are:
>
>
>
> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oc-tscwg-installer
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__etherpad.openstack.org_p_oc-2Dtscwg-2Dinstaller&d=DwMGaQ&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=Y9QaEJ2cs4La8kQDqQ-N2rBJnxrPyFqAIO8efLhSqZ0&m=TouYgKwtBEYbF3ssqvSIiK1RKCDr9l6lc5YCpU0cIjg&s=BJMJefB8gvk5BCav_KNLUhmlnEdN60NTvnwAOSL0iZM&e=>
>
> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oc-tscwg-installer-QandA
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__etherpad.openstack.org_p_oc-2Dtscwg-2Dinstaller-2DQandA&d=DwMGaQ&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=Y9QaEJ2cs4La8kQDqQ-N2rBJnxrPyFqAIO8efLhSqZ0&m=TouYgKwtBEYbF3ssqvSIiK1RKCDr9l6lc5YCpU0cIjg&s=vDakWlxPPU_ITSMUluRXzpC4llmjuTyxvJ69q5KHp4E&e=>
>
>
>
> If/when you edit the first Etherpad, please use Markdown syntax if you
> need formatting, don’t use Etherpad’s formatting toolbar. I would like to
> just copy and paste it back into the Git repo where GitHub will
> automatically render the Markdown formatting. For the second Etherpad, you
> can use the formatting toolbar if you want to. I don’t plan for that second
> Etherpad to be long lived, it’s just to gather questions and discussion
> topics aimed at fixing the README.md file.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Paul Carver
>
> VoIP: 732-545-7377 <(732)%20545-7377>
>
> Cell: 908-803-1656 <(908)%20803-1656>
>
> E: pcar...@att.com
>
> Q Instant Message
>
> It is difficult to make predictions. Especially about the future.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Edward Ting [mailto:lti...@lenovo.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 22, 2017 23:04
> *To:* Gasparakis, Joseph <joseph.gaspara...@intel.com>; Sukhdev Kapur <
> sukh...@juniper.net>; Yang, Yi Y <yi.y.y...@intel.com>; Gregory Elkinbard
> <gelkinb...@juniper.net>; CARVER, PAUL <pc2...@att.com>;
> dev@lists.opencontrail.org; Rudra Rugge <rru...@juniper.net>
> *Subject:* RE: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda
>
>
>
>
>
> Sounds good to me.  Let’s work on the fix together next week. In the
> meantime, Yi, feel free to unicast me if you’d like to see my notes earlier
> than that.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Edward
>
>
>
> *From:* Gasparakis, Joseph [mailto:joseph.gaspara...@intel.com
> <joseph.gaspara...@intel.com>]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 22, 2017 6:40 PM
> *To:* Sukhdev Kapur; Edward Ting; Yang, Yi Y; Gregory Elkinbard; CARVER,
> PAUL; dev@lists.opencontrail.org; Rudra Rugge
> *Subject:* RE: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda
>
>
>
> Sure, we can discuss but more importantly it is better to put together a
> taskforce to get this done:
>
>
>
> -          Edward said they have some fixes
>
> -          Valentine during the TSC call also mentioned that probably
> they can contribute their process to build and deploy
>
> -          Paul with the rest of Infrastructure group are also putting
> the CI/CD in place
>
> -          I have mentioned in the past have a way to build OpenContrail
> (but not deploy)
>
>
>
> Combining all the above we should be able to fix the issue sooner rather
> than later. I can pull the above people together and start working on this.
> Output will be documentation (worse case) or chef/pupper/ansible manifests
> at best…
>
>
>
> And Yi: I think you are recently started catching with the community up.
> This issue has been identified long ago, we all know about it, people
> (especially Infrastructure committee and other outside) work on a fix. It
> doesn’t happen overnight and it is up to all of us to put “our house in
> order”. So let’s see how we can do our share moving forward ;-)
>
>
>
> So, any volunteers to put some sort of OpenContrail installation together
> (single or multi node) to start with please let us know and I will pull
> everyone together next week.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Joseph
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Sukhdev Kapur [mailto:sukh...@juniper.net <sukh...@juniper.net>]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:58 PM
> *To:* Edward Ting <lti...@lenovo.com>; Yang, Yi Y <yi.y.y...@intel.com>;
> Gregory Elkinbard <gelkinb...@juniper.net>; CARVER, PAUL <pc2...@att.com>;
> Gasparakis, Joseph <joseph.gaspara...@intel.com>;
> dev@lists.opencontrail.org; Rudra Rugge <rru...@juniper.net>
> *Subject:* Re: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda
>
>
>
> Edward, Yi, et. all,
>
>
>
> I am the newest member of the OpenContrail team and have had my share of
> issues trying to install OpenContrail. Therefore, I do appreciate what you
> are saying. I am all for documenting the issues and solutions so that, as a
> community, we can all leverage from each other’s pain points and solutions.
>
> Having said that, why don’t we come up with a place “OpenContrail User
> Central” (or something like that) where we can start to post these kinds of
> solutions/fixes so that other can leverage from each other’s work.
>
>
>
> Joseph, shall we discuss this in our next TSC meeting?
>
>
>
> -Sukhdev
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Edward Ting <lti...@lenovo.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 4:43 PM
> *To: *"Yang, Yi Y" <yi.y.y...@intel.com>, Gregory Elkinbard <
> gelkinb...@juniper.net>, "CARVER, PAUL" <pc2...@att.com>, Sukhdev Kapur <
> sukh...@juniper.net>, "Gasparakis, Joseph" <joseph.gaspara...@intel.com>,
> "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" <dev@lists.opencontrail.org>, Rudra Rugge <
> rru...@juniper.net>
> *Subject: *RE: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda
>
>
>
>
>
> We have tried contrail-installer (4 different developers) on Ubuntu 16.04
> with DevStack Ocata (Mitaka is no longer available). It can bring all
> component ‘Active’ after try-and-error fixing broken steps, but not fully
> functional.
>
>
>
> We are more than happy to contribute our ‘fixes’ to where we are and work
> with the community together to complete the last missing pieces.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Edward
>
>
>
> *From:* Dev [mailto:dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org
> <dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org>] *On Behalf Of *Yang, Yi Y
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:33 PM
> *To:* Gregory Elkinbard; CARVER, PAUL; Sukhdev Kapur; Gasparakis, Joseph;
> dev@lists.opencontrail.org; Rudra Rugge
> *Subject:* Re: [opencontrail-dev] Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda
>
>
>
> Understood, but as an open source community, you Juniper guys are to learn
> how to leverage community resources, I believe many people can contribute
> to these documents or https://github.com/Juniper/contrail-installer
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_Juniper_contrail-2Dinstaller&d=DwMGaQ&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=Y9QaEJ2cs4La8kQDqQ-N2rBJnxrPyFqAIO8efLhSqZ0&m=UENkYoX6DDteZmRSmfgQUxmxxbuNE1Au8qeoMu_YRiw&s=zRPvHM2gVJjlmogAMa1v0oPnc_fuoGVVutAlBgTyh0g&e=>
> if someone of you can provide necessary and quick response about the issues
> developers found. You must make sure people can install and use it first if
> you hope to have more developers and users.
>
>
>
> *From:* Gregory Elkinbard [mailto:gelkinb...@juniper.net
> <gelkinb...@juniper.net>]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 23, 2017 8:23 AM
> *To:* Yang, Yi Y <yi.y.y...@intel.com>; CARVER, PAUL <pc2...@att.com>;
> Sukhdev Kapur <sukh...@juniper.net>; Gasparakis, Joseph <
> joseph.gaspara...@intel.com>; dev@lists.opencontrail.org; Rudra Rugge <
> rru...@juniper.net>
> *Subject:* Re: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda
>
>
>
> Folks,
>
> I appreciate that we have a deficit in usability.
>
>
>
> However Amazon demo scripts can be used today to build a multi-vm
> environment in Amazon. It is semi-latest Cannonical OpenStack and
> OpenContrail 4.0.1. The scripts set up the whole environment for you. Just
> fill out few things.
>
>
>
> I know this is not stuff that can run on desktops and is not useful for a
> true development pipeline. I am simply trying to avoid having people show
> up to a developer meeting cold, without even basic open contrail knowledge.
>
>
>
> Once the CI system is up we will have a set of running single VM scripts.
> But my choice right now is to stop the development and have people write
> the docs. Or finish the development, launch the community CI and then write
> the docs.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Greg
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *"Yang, Yi Y" <yi.y.y...@intel.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 4:16 PM
> *To: *Gregory Elkinbard <gelkinb...@juniper.net>, "CARVER, PAUL" <
> pc2...@att.com>, Sukhdev Kapur <sukh...@juniper.net>, "Gasparakis,
> Joseph" <joseph.gaspara...@intel.com>, "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" <
> dev@lists.opencontrail.org>, Rudra Rugge <rru...@juniper.net>
> *Subject: *RE: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda
>
>
>
> Greg, but install has been a big obstacle for developers, can you help
> provide an existing guide document for an easier installation way for
> developer? I mean OpenContrail + Openstack in vagrant VMs (or hardware
> platforms if impossible), don’t tell me to use binary installation in
> Ubuntu 14.04 J
>
>
>
> *From:* Dev [mailto:dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org
> <dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org>] *On Behalf Of *Gregory Elkinbard
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 23, 2017 8:06 AM
> *To:* CARVER, PAUL <pc2...@att.com>; Sukhdev Kapur <sukh...@juniper.net>;
> Gasparakis, Joseph <joseph.gaspara...@intel.com>;
> dev@lists.opencontrail.org; Rudra Rugge <rru...@juniper.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [opencontrail-dev] Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda
>
>
>
> I would recommend that folks who do come, at least
>
> 1) install and play with contrail demo.
>
> 2) read the architecture spec
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Greg
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *"CARVER, PAUL" <pc2...@att.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 2:21 PM
> *To: *Sukhdev Kapur <sukh...@juniper.net>, Gregory Elkinbard <
> gelkinb...@juniper.net>, "Gasparakis, Joseph" <joseph.gaspara...@intel.com>,
> "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" <dev@lists.opencontrail.org>, Rudra Rugge <
> rru...@juniper.net>
> *Subject: *RE: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda
>
>
>
> The more questions the better. The ideal would be no slides and all
> questions, answers and discussions.
>
>
>
> No formal pre-work is required, but I would encourage anyone who is
> contemplating any Contrail development to spend a little time thinking
> about what you think your development steps will be and make a list of
> anything that you’re unsure about. The goal of this session is to get
> developers up to speed, so the more specific examples we have of either
> obstacles or simply things that ought to be covered in a getting started
> guide but aren’t will be helpful.
>
>
>
> I’m hoping to create the beginnings of a developer FAQ based on what
> questions people have.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Paul Carver
>
> VoIP: 732-545-7377 <(732)%20545-7377>
>
> Cell: 908-803-1656 <(908)%20803-1656>
>
> E: pcar...@att.com
>
> Q Instant Message
>
> It is difficult to make predictions. Especially about the future.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Dev [mailto:dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org
> <dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org>] *On Behalf Of *Sukhdev Kapur
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 22, 2017 17:09
> *To:* Gregory Elkinbard <gelkinb...@juniper.net>; Gasparakis, Joseph <
> joseph.gaspara...@intel.com>; dev@lists.opencontrail.org; Rudra Rugge <
> rru...@juniper.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [opencontrail-dev] Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda
>
>
>
> Joesph, Greg:
>
>
>
> There is not pre-work required. Just come, bring an attitude to learn
> things, and bring your questions.
>
> We have few speakers identified to cover this 4-hour session.
>
>
>
> Rudra and I will cover the Overall architecture
>
> We have additional speakers to cover Controller, analytics, and testing
> areas.
>
>
>
> I am working on getting some slides that we will use to cover the
> architecture.
>
>
>
> HTH
>
> -Sukhdev
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Gregory Elkinbard <gelkinb...@juniper.net>
> *Date: *Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 1:59 PM
> *To: *"Gasparakis, Joseph" <joseph.gaspara...@intel.com>, "
> dev@lists.opencontrail.org" <dev@lists.opencontrail.org>, Rudra Rugge <
> rru...@juniper.net>, Sukhdev Kapur <sukh...@juniper.net>
> *Subject: *Re: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda
>
>
>
> Rudra, Sukhdev,
>
> You own this session. Can you please respond.
>
> Thanks
>
> Greg
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *"Gasparakis, Joseph" <joseph.gaspara...@intel.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 1:49 PM
> *To: *Gregory Elkinbard <gelkinb...@juniper.net>, "
> dev@lists.opencontrail.org" <dev@lists.opencontrail.org>
> *Subject: *RE: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda
>
>
>
> Greg,
>
>
>
> For Dec 6th 1:00- 5:00 Developer Track: Is there any pre-work required?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Joseph
>
>
>
> *From:* Dev [mailto:dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org
> <dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org>] *On Behalf Of *Gregory Elkinbard
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 21, 2017 11:32 AM
> *To:* dev@lists.opencontrail.org
> *Subject:* [opencontrail-dev] Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda
>
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YA0X1GYcAMhcXAhjdSnq_
> WWmhQKV6pHwkK3PSu9V3e4/edit?usp=sharing
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1YA0X1GYcAMhcXAhjdSnq-5FWWmhQKV6pHwkK3PSu9V3e4_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwMGaQ&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=VQrMBvKeploIeBocya36pOwODBVDvmbjFqFgowqJuhs&m=vEKkTAAAOb3NmoHBAXY0AWuX0eVFStYoTOP-OrZc-8I&s=3wijA4l3khom5fOwRia9ZvVZy6jmKoDcDFeWzaW3mfE&e=>
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