I mean it's proprietary (or semi-free) software as a service; that only works with proprietary software. The loop-server uses a non-free API.

On 04/11/15 18:03, Jorge Araya Navarro wrote:
You mean, PaaS. PaaS != SaaSS. I cannot find anything on gnu.org or fsf.org 
regarding PaaS as
something unacceptably evil in regard to user's four freedoms. One could argue 
that from the privacy
point of view is good enough reasons to have a Nonprism version of Iceweasel 
with Firefox Hello disabled.

Besides, it seems that everything one have to do is to change the WebRTC 
backend and adapt loop
server's code and you are done, I bet Mozilla is accepting patches for allowing 
this.

In any case, I don't think this as a reason to disable Firefox Hello feature, 
outside of Nonprism.

El martes 03 de noviembre del 2015 a las 1943 horas, Josh Branning escribió:

On 04/11/15 00:17, Jorge Araya Navarro wrote:
This is also for Luke: Firefox's Hello feature works in a client-server 
architecture fashion (Like
the SIP or XMPP protocol, but that doesn't mean that we should ban Linphone or 
any Jabber client
because they relay in a SaaSS services (wat?!)), and I see hard to think that 
because I cannot
"switch" to another provider for Hello it means that I have lost any of my four 
freedoms.

BTW, the code of the backend is here[1], who wants to convince the FSF or the 
SFC to mount a Loop (Hello) server?

[1]: https://github.com/mozilla-services/loop-server

El lunes 02 de noviembre del 2015 a las 1538 horas, Josh Branning escribió:

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-serve.html

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'  How do I run it?
'  Be sure to edit the content of config/dev.json. You'll especially
need to specify your TokBox credentials." [1]


' TokBox is a PaaS (Platform as a Service) company that provides hosted
infrastructure, APIs and tools required to deliver enterprise-grade
WebRTC capabilities. It does so primarily through its proprietary
OpenTok video platform for commercial application. [2]

Therefore, by the looks of things, not only is is SaaS, but it's
proprietary SaaS.

[1] https://github.com/mozilla-services/loop-server
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokbox


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