On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 13:51:43 -0600, Brian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Please no. I've never had a single client that liked the way that worked.
> I
> personally hate it. Thunderbird does not do that (at least not by
> default).
> Outlook Express doesn't either I don't think. Outlook is the only thing
> I've
> ever seen that does that by default. I would seriously not use roundcube
> if it
> did this. That's not a threat since I'm sure the devs could care less
> about what
> one user thinks in the grand scheme of things. I'm just letting the devs
> know
> how one of their users feels. They are free to tally the votes and make
> their
> own decisions.
> 
> --Brian Jackson
> 

I haven't used Outlook Express in quite some time, but in version 6, I'm quite 
sure it did this.  Kmail does it and last time I checked, Thunderbird did if 
you didn't have a Trash folder and didn't Expunge.  I'm not exactly sure why 
It'd not doing this for you, but it has always been that way for me.

As far as I'm concerned, it's the least intrusive way to handle the situation.  
Creating a folder without telling a user is just bad design practice.  I don't 
care who has done this... it's wrong and breaks the philosophy of good, 
practical design.  

I'm not sure why you're so upset with striking out messages.  If you don't like 
it, set your mail client to expunge on delete.  That cures the problem.  I'm 
sure if roundcube were to do what I suggested, that option would be available 
as well.  What most people need to understand is that IMAP is a flexible 
protocol, unlike POP3.  This flexibility should be exploited at in a user 
friendly fashion.  Not removed because the developers think they know better 
than the user.  Simply striking out a message and having an option to "expunge 
on delete" for those that don't want a striked out message sitting in ther 
inbox is a very quick and simple way to cure this problem.  Then if you have a 
Trash folder, it can simply not delete, but move to the Trash folder...  So you 
have 2 solutions to your "I don't like striked out message" problem.  With that 
being said, why would you stop using roundcube if you have 2 options to remove 
striked out/deleted messages?

My solution adds just one configuration option (Expunge on Delete) and very 
little code.  This keeps the interface clutter free and simple for the user 
while maintaining the flexibility of the protocol.





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