Dean Jones wrote:

On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 13:51:43 -0600, Brian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Please no. I've never had a single client that liked the way that worked.
I
personally hate it. Thunderbird does not do that (at least not by
default).
Outlook Express doesn't either I don't think. Outlook is the only thing
I've
ever seen that does that by default. I would seriously not use roundcube
if it
did this. That's not a threat since I'm sure the devs could care less
about what
one user thinks in the grand scheme of things. I'm just letting the devs
know
how one of their users feels. They are free to tally the votes and make
their
own decisions.

--Brian Jackson


I haven't used Outlook Express in quite some time, but in version 6, I'm quite 
sure it did this.  Kmail does it and last time I checked, Thunderbird did if 
you didn't have a Trash folder and didn't Expunge.  I'm not exactly sure why 
It'd not doing this for you, but it has always been that way for me.

As far as I'm concerned, it's the least intrusive way to handle the situation. Creating a folder without telling a user is just bad design practice. I don't care who has done this... it's wrong and breaks the philosophy of good, practical design.
I'm not sure why you're so upset with striking out messages.  If you don't like it, set your mail 
client to expunge on delete.  That cures the problem.  I'm sure if roundcube were to do what I 
suggested, that option would be available as well.  What most people need to understand is that 
IMAP is a flexible protocol, unlike POP3.  This flexibility should be exploited at in a user 
friendly fashion.  Not removed because the developers think they know better than the user.  Simply 
striking out a message and having an option to "expunge on delete" for those that don't 
want a striked out message sitting in ther inbox is a very quick and simple way to cure this 
problem.  Then if you have a Trash folder, it can simply not delete, but move to the Trash 
folder...  So you have 2 solutions to your "I don't like striked out message" problem.  
With that being said, why would you stop using roundcube if you have 2 options to remove striked 
out/deleted messages?

My solution adds just one configuration option (Expunge on Delete) and very 
little code.  This keeps the interface clutter free and simple for the user 
while maintaining the flexibility of the protocol.


You are of course right. Choice is paramount. I just had a knee jerk reaction to (what I consider) nightmarish behavior. I'm cool with choice. Not cool with that being mandatory.

--Brian Jackson


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