On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:20:00 +0000, Dean Earley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dean Jones wrote:
>> I'm just not sure I like that solution unless you're talking about
> making local folders.  I don't like anything forcing creation of any files
> or folder on the IMAP server.  If roundcube were to create a local trash
> folder, fine... But forcing the creation of folder on the IMAP server is,
> in my opinion, incorrect and a bad design practice.  Every IMAP client I
> have used creates local Trash folders and uses those if one does not exist
> on the IMAP server or you have not specified your IMAP trash folder as the
> folder to use.  I have never had one secretly create an IMAP folder and
> just assume that's what I wanted.
> 
> I think all the ones I've used (Outlook/OE, thunderbird and
> squirrelmail) do.

Thunderbird does not do this.  Thunderbird has a LOCAL Trash folder that is 
uses if you do not specify one to use on the IMAP server.  Thunderbird does 
this correctly, IMO.  I wouldn't be surprised if Outloook and OE did this 
because Microsoft is famous for thinking they know better than the user and 
creating files/directories/entities or holding them hostage.  That's why I 
personally do not use many Microsoft products... It thinks it knows better than 
I do and as we can all probably agree with, that's just not always the case.  
There may be a reason I don't want to create extra folders on my IMAP server.  
People have freaky reasons for all of this.  However, think of a user that 
comes along, loves Roundcube and then delete's something.  He says "Umm... wait 
a tic.  I didn't want to create a new folder.  Why is roundcube forcing me to 
do this?"  It's just not a good practice.  And I've never been a fan of 
SquirrelMail. Roundcube is much better than SquirrelMail already.

> 
> I've also seen recommendations somewhere (cant remember where) about NOT
> having a "trash" folder and following the IMAP spec.
> Make it a virtual folder showing all "deleted" items waiting to be
> expunged.
> I am aware this will be broken on a lot of clients that "expunge on exit"
> 
> (It also breaks my setup where I have a script to remove items from my
> deleted folder after X days :)

I could live with a virtual folder.  I just don't want us creating 
folders/files in the background without the users consent.   Along with this, I 
hope to keep the interface easy and clutter free.  For example, don't overload 
the preferences area with pointless configuration options.  KISS.







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