I'm happy to be available at 8am my side, if that works for everyone else. It sounds like earlier would be better, but I'm doing the morning school run from 7am and can't guarantee I'll be back significantly before 8am.

How to do this? I have zoom and slack on my work machine, can install Skype if that's more convenient, can do google meet, I assume, though haven't ever tried, so may need a bit of a crash intro.

If posting meeting details to the mailing list is not on, feel free to email me directly (:

-d


On September 20, 2020 20:58:29 Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:

8am in Durban South Africa is 11pm the night before in Phoenix AZ. However, I frequently am up until midnight so that could work. 5-5:30 pm is 7:30-8 am in Phoenix. I usually am not in front of my computer on a weekday until 8 am but on occasion I can do earlier.

Ralph

On Sep 20, 2020, at 9:46 AM, Davyd McColl <dav...@gmail.com> wrote:

Any time 08h00 - 17h30 utc+2, except 13h00-14h00 (that's when I fetch my son from school)

-d


On September 20, 2020 18:44:19 Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:

We’re not quite as strict as Debian for keys (though if you can find a
Debian group locally, they’re great for key signing). The video call idea
could work for exchanging keys. What times would you be available to do
that?

On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 03:09 Davyd McColl <dav...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Ralph



I think I miscommunicated: I'm not regenerating my signing key - just the

nuget API key for package upload. This forces me to log in in nuget.org

which has 2fa and then I only use that key on the cli for the immediate
upload.



My gpg key as at https://GitHub.com/fluffynuts.gpg is the same that I
used

last time.



-d





On September 20, 2020 09:01:36 Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
wrote:



> In the long run you don’t want to be regenerating your signing key for

> every release. The point is that you would upload the key to a central

> keystore and other people would sign it there. At ApacheCon we would
have a

> key signing “party” where we recorded each others keys and then would
take

> our list and update the central keystore. When people verify the key
they

> can look at the keystore and see that it is signed by a number of
people,

> who then have their keys by a number of people and so on so you are

> building a web of trust.  Sooner or later there will be someone in that
web

> that you personally know and trust.

>

> Ralph

>

>> On Sep 19, 2020, at 11:26 PM, Davyd McColl <dav...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>

>> Thanks Matt, I've updated the artifacts on GitHub to have detached

>> signatures. I had previously also uploaded my key to sks-keyservers.net,


>> but I've also uploaded to MIT, though search there always times out.

>>

>> The document you've linked mentions face-to-face interactions to get my
key

>> into the official KEYS file. Not sure how many apache people are at my
end

>> of the world (Durban, South Africa), but I can do an online meeting if
that

>> helps. Last release, Ralph said I should sign, so I did. I'm new to
signing

>> release artifacts - I've generally relied on authentication during
upload

>> as verification of authenticity, with 2FA wherever possible (GitHub and

>> NPM; nuget survives with an apikey - but for the last 2 releases, I've

>> regenerated the key on each use and only supplied it on the cli at
upload,

>> so as not to store it locally)

>>

>> -d

>>

>>

>> On September 19, 2020 22:23:41 Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>

>>> Oh and there's a bit of an issue with the signed files: it looks like

>>> you included _signed files_ rather than detached signatures. Thus, the

>>> .asc files are only verifying themselves rather than the accompanying

>>> file.

>>>

>>> There's a --detached option in gpg for this (yeah, it's always had a
bad UI).

>>>

>>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2020 at 15:19, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>

>>>> The KEYS file [1] that's linked on the download page does not have

>>>> your key in it. Neither does other KEYS file [2]. Check out [3] for

>>>> more info.

>>>>

>>>> [1]: https://downloads.apache.org/logging/log4net/KEYS

>>>> [2]: https://downloads.apache.org/logging/KEYS

>>>> [3]: https://infra.apache.org/release-signing.html#keys-policy

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2020 at 12:48, Davyd McColl <dav...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> >

>>>> > Thanks Matt, I've done so. Hopefully that makes it easier to verify

>>>> > artifacts that I have signed.

>>>> >

>>>> > -d

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>> > On September 18, 2020 23:11:48 Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>>>> >

>>>> > > If you upload your key to your GitHub profile, that also makes it

>>>> > > simple to find. For example, just add ".gpg" to your profile URL:

>>>> > > https://github.com/fluffynuts.gpg

>>>> > >

>>>> > > On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 16:08, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>>>> > >>

>>>> > >> +1 remko

>>>> > >>

>>>> > >> On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 5:56 AM Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>>>> > >>

>>>> > >> > How about your gpg key? I don't think we've imported that to
the KEYS

>>>> > >> > file as far as I can tell?

>>>> > >> >

>>>> > >> > On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 15:53, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>>>> > >> > >

>>>> > >> > > Oh sorry, I didn't notice that you uploaded them there
(wasn't even

>>>> > >> > > aware that it was possible to be honest).

>>>> > >> > >

>>>> > >> > > On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 14:43, Davyd McColl <dav...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>>>> > >> > > >

>>>> > >> > > > Hi Matt

>>>> > >> > > >

>>>> > >> > > > Release artifacts are available on the GitHub release page

>>>> > >> > > > (https://GitHub.com/Apache/logging-log4net/releases) -
expand the

>>>> > >> > assets

>>>> > >> > > > list if it's collapsed.

>>>> > >> > > >

>>>> > >> > > > I'll need someone to upload them to the downloads source
as I

>>>> think I

>>>> > >> > don't

>>>> > >> > > > have access to do so (if I'm wrong, I'd love to be
corrected,

>>>> because

>>>> > >> > I'd

>>>> > >> > > > be less of an annoyance then!). Ralph has stepped in to
help here in

>>>> > >> > the past.

>>>> > >> > > >

>>>> > >> > > > -d

>>>> > >> > > >

>>>> > >> > > >

>>>> > >> > > > On September 18, 2020 20:09:07 Matt Sicker <
boa...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> > >> > > >

>>>> > >> > > > > Do you have links to the release artifacts? The download
page

>>>> links

>>>> > >> > to

>>>> > >> > > > > the live site which doesn't have the artifacts yet since

>>>> they're not

>>>> > >> > > > > released yet. :)

>>>> > >> > > > >

>>>> > >> > > > > On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 09:05, Davyd McColl

>>>> <davyd.mcc...@codeo.co.za>

>>>> > >> > wrote:

>>>> > >> > > > >>

>>>> > >> > > > >> Hi all

>>>> > >> > > > >>

>>>> > >> > > > >> I have another potential release available: 2.0.11,
tagged as

>>>> > >> > rc/2.0.11

>>>> > >> > > > >>

>>>> > >> > > > >> Changes are really minor:

>>>> > >> > > > >> - fixed assembly versioning (all assemblies should
report

>>>> 2.0.11.0

>>>> > >> > as their

>>>> > >> > > > >> version now)

>>>> > >> > > > >> - properly dispose of StreamWriters within logging
appenders

>>>> > >> > (thanks to

>>>> > >> > > > >> @NicholasNoise)

>>>> > >> > > > >>

>>>> > >> > > > >> Binaries are up at

>>>> > >> > > > >>

>>>> https://github.com/apache/logging-log4net/releases/tag/rc%2F2.0.11

>>>> > >> > and I've

>>>> > >> > > > >> pushed to asf-staging for logging, now up at

>>>> > >> > > > >>
https://logging.staged.apache.org/log4net/download_log4net.html

>>>> > >> > > > >>

>>>> > >> > > > >> Thanks

>>>> > >> > > > >> -d

>>>> > >> > > > >

>>>> > >> > > > >

>>>> > >> > > > >

>>>> > >> > > > > --

>>>> > >> > > > > Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>

>>>> > >> > >

>>>> > >> > >

>>>> > >> > >

>>>> > >> > > --

>>>> > >> > > Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>

>>>> > >> >

>>>> > >> >

>>>> > >> >

>>>> > >> > --

>>>> > >> > Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>

>>>> > >> >

>>>> > >

>>>> > >

>>>> > >

>>>> > > --

>>>> > > Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> --

>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>

>

>

--
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