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On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 14:26, Davyd McColl <dav...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm happy to be available at 8am my side, if that works for everyone else.
> It sounds like earlier would be better, but I'm doing the morning school
> run from 7am and can't guarantee I'll be back significantly before 8am.
>
>  How to do this? I have zoom and slack on my work machine, can install
> Skype if that's more convenient, can do google meet, I assume, though
> haven't ever tried, so may need a bit of a crash intro.
>
> If posting meeting details to the mailing list is not on, feel free to
> email me directly (:
>
> -d
>
>
> On September 20, 2020 20:58:29 Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
> > 8am in Durban South Africa is 11pm the night before in Phoenix AZ.
> > However, I frequently am up until midnight so that could work. 5-5:30 pm is
> > 7:30-8 am in Phoenix. I usually am not in front of my computer on a weekday
> > until 8 am but on occasion I can do earlier.
> >
> > Ralph
> >
> >> On Sep 20, 2020, at 9:46 AM, Davyd McColl <dav...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Any time 08h00 - 17h30 utc+2, except 13h00-14h00 (that's when I fetch my
> >> son from school)
> >>
> >> -d
> >>
> >>
> >> On September 20, 2020 18:44:19 Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> We’re not quite as strict as Debian for keys (though if you can find a
> >>> Debian group locally, they’re great for key signing). The video call idea
> >>> could work for exchanging keys. What times would you be available to do
> >>> that?
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 03:09 Davyd McColl <dav...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Ralph
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I think I miscommunicated: I'm not regenerating my signing key - just the
> >>>>
> >>>> nuget API key for package upload. This forces me to log in in nuget.org
> >>>>
> >>>> which has 2fa and then I only use that key on the cli for the immediate
> >>>> upload.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> My gpg key as at https://GitHub.com/fluffynuts.gpg is the same that I
> >>>> used
> >>>>
> >>>> last time.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -d
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On September 20, 2020 09:01:36 Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> > In the long run you don’t want to be regenerating your signing key for
> >>>>
> >>>> > every release. The point is that you would upload the key to a central
> >>>>
> >>>> > keystore and other people would sign it there. At ApacheCon we would
> >>>> have a
> >>>>
> >>>> > key signing “party” where we recorded each others keys and then would
> >>>> take
> >>>>
> >>>> > our list and update the central keystore. When people verify the key
> >>>> they
> >>>>
> >>>> > can look at the keystore and see that it is signed by a number of
> >>>> people,
> >>>>
> >>>> > who then have their keys by a number of people and so on so you are
> >>>>
> >>>> > building a web of trust.  Sooner or later there will be someone in that
> >>>> web
> >>>>
> >>>> > that you personally know and trust.
> >>>>
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>> > Ralph
> >>>>
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>> >> On Sep 19, 2020, at 11:26 PM, Davyd McColl <dav...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> >>
> >>>>
> >>>> >> Thanks Matt, I've updated the artifacts on GitHub to have detached
> >>>>
> >>>> >> signatures. I had previously also uploaded my key to 
> >>>> >> sks-keyservers.net,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> >> but I've also uploaded to MIT, though search there always times out.
> >>>>
> >>>> >>
> >>>>
> >>>> >> The document you've linked mentions face-to-face interactions to get 
> >>>> >> my
> >>>> key
> >>>>
> >>>> >> into the official KEYS file. Not sure how many apache people are at my
> >>>> end
> >>>>
> >>>> >> of the world (Durban, South Africa), but I can do an online meeting if
> >>>> that
> >>>>
> >>>> >> helps. Last release, Ralph said I should sign, so I did. I'm new to
> >>>> signing
> >>>>
> >>>> >> release artifacts - I've generally relied on authentication during
> >>>> upload
> >>>>
> >>>> >> as verification of authenticity, with 2FA wherever possible (GitHub 
> >>>> >> and
> >>>>
> >>>> >> NPM; nuget survives with an apikey - but for the last 2 releases, I've
> >>>>
> >>>> >> regenerated the key on each use and only supplied it on the cli at
> >>>> upload,
> >>>>
> >>>> >> so as not to store it locally)
> >>>>
> >>>> >>
> >>>>
> >>>> >> -d
> >>>>
> >>>> >>
> >>>>
> >>>> >>
> >>>>
> >>>> >> On September 19, 2020 22:23:41 Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> >>
> >>>>
> >>>> >>> Oh and there's a bit of an issue with the signed files: it looks like
> >>>>
> >>>> >>> you included _signed files_ rather than detached signatures. Thus, 
> >>>> >>> the
> >>>>
> >>>> >>> .asc files are only verifying themselves rather than the accompanying
> >>>>
> >>>> >>> file.
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> >>> There's a --detached option in gpg for this (yeah, it's always had a
> >>>> bad UI).
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> >>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2020 at 15:19, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> The KEYS file [1] that's linked on the download page does not have
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> your key in it. Neither does other KEYS file [2]. Check out [3] for
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> more info.
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> [1]: https://downloads.apache.org/logging/log4net/KEYS
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> [2]: https://downloads.apache.org/logging/KEYS
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> [3]: https://infra.apache.org/release-signing.html#keys-policy
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2020 at 12:48, Davyd McColl <dav...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > Thanks Matt, I've done so. Hopefully that makes it easier to 
> >>>> >>>> > verify
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > artifacts that I have signed.
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > -d
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > On September 18, 2020 23:11:48 Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > > If you upload your key to your GitHub profile, that also makes 
> >>>> >>>> > > it
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > > simple to find. For example, just add ".gpg" to your profile 
> >>>> >>>> > > URL:
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > > https://github.com/fluffynuts.gpg
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > > On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 16:08, Remko Popma 
> >>>> >>>> > > <remko.po...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >>
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> +1 remko
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >>
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 5:56 AM Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >>
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > How about your gpg key? I don't think we've imported that to
> >>>> the KEYS
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > file as far as I can tell?
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> >
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 15:53, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > Oh sorry, I didn't notice that you uploaded them there
> >>>> (wasn't even
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > aware that it was possible to be honest).
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 14:43, Davyd McColl 
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > <dav...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > >
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > Hi Matt
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > >
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > Release artifacts are available on the GitHub release 
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > page
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > (https://GitHub.com/Apache/logging-log4net/releases) -
> >>>> expand the
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > assets
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > list if it's collapsed.
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > >
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > I'll need someone to upload them to the downloads source
> >>>> as I
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> think I
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > don't
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > have access to do so (if I'm wrong, I'd love to be
> >>>> corrected,
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> because
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > I'd
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > be less of an annoyance then!). Ralph has stepped in to
> >>>> help here in
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > the past.
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > >
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > -d
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > >
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > >
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > On September 18, 2020 20:09:07 Matt Sicker <
> >>>> boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > >
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > > Do you have links to the release artifacts? The 
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > > download
> >>>> page
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> links
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > to
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > > the live site which doesn't have the artifacts yet 
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > > since
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> they're not
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > > released yet. :)
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > >
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > > On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 09:05, Davyd McColl
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> <davyd.mcc...@codeo.co.za>
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > >>
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > >> Hi all
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > >>
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > >> I have another potential release available: 2.0.11,
> >>>> tagged as
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > rc/2.0.11
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > >>
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > >> Changes are really minor:
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > >> - fixed assembly versioning (all assemblies should
> >>>> report
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> 2.0.11.0
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > as their
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > >> version now)
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > >> - properly dispose of StreamWriters within logging
> >>>> appenders
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > (thanks to
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > >> @NicholasNoise)
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > >>
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > >> Binaries are up at
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > >>
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> https://github.com/apache/logging-log4net/releases/tag/rc%2F2.0.11
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > and I've
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > >> pushed to asf-staging for logging, now up at
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > >>
> >>>> https://logging.staged.apache.org/log4net/download_log4net.html
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > >>
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > >> Thanks
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > >> -d
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > >
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > >
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > >
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > > --
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > > > Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > --
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > > Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> >
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> >
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> >
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > --
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> > Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >> >
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > >
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > > --
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> > > Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> >>> --
> >>>>
> >>>> >>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
> >>>>
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
> >
> >



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