I actually don’t know where this idea of switching to GitHub issues is coming from. The email from infra talks about how Jira will no longer allow random users to sign up and the tool they provided to allow the PMC to register users. I would guess the expectation would be that we would provide some process for our users to requests ids from the PMC.
What does any of this have to do with GitHub issues. I see no mention of that in the email from infra. Ralph > On Oct 23, 2022, at 12:10 PM, Volkan Yazıcı <vol...@yazi.ci> wrote: > > I personally think this is great news in the long run. I already had > pitched the idea of moving to GitHub Issues earlier, but it was back then > rejected due to various reasons; GitHub is proprietary, JIRA also plays an > archive role due to its age, `changes.xml` sort-of requires JIRA tickets, > etc. World spam organizations solved the discussion for everyone. 😜 > > We were already receiving bug reports via Issues, nothing has changed in > this regard. Yet we need to reflect the official switch to Issues in our > documentation, which right now points users to JIRA > <https://logging.apache.org/log4j/2.x/support.html>, too. I also expect > more questions funneled via StackOverflow, since several people were using > JIRA for asking questions too. Last but not least, maybe this would create > sufficient leverage to replace `changes.xml` with something else. > > On Sat, Oct 22, 2022 at 4:53 AM Matt Sicker <m...@musigma.org> wrote: > >> This is relevant to potentially switching to GitHub issues. >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: fluxo <c...@apache.org> >>> Date: October 21, 2022 at 20:02:01 CDT >>> To: annou...@infra.apache.org >>> Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Changes to Jira Account Creation (issues.a.o/jira) >>> Reply-To: us...@infra.apache.org >>> >>> Hello PMC members, >>> >>> As I'm sure most of you are aware, the spam issues on Jira are getting >> worse. We are seeing spam user creation of over 10,000 accounts per year, >> and receive many requests per month from project members for help >> addressing spam complaints. Infra is taking steps to disable public Jira >> signups. >>> >>> Infra has developed a self-service tool by which folks on a PMC can >> request a Jira account for non-ASF contributors: >>> >>> >>> https://selfserve.apache.org/ >>> >>> >>> Click "Create a Jira user account" to go to: >>> >>> >>> https://selfserve.apache.org/jira-acct.html >>> >>> >>> You need to enter a username for the new Jira account. We will reject >> the request if there is an existing account with that username. If this >> person may ultimately become a committer, Infra recommends that they choose >> a username that they can also use for their LDAP username. >>> >>> Next, the tool asks you to enter their Display Name. This is the "public >> name" which will appear on all their Jira posts and comments. >>> >>> Last, the tool asks you to enter the user's email address. We expect the >> PMC to exercise due diligence in making sure the contributor's email works. >> If it does not, they will not get the password reset mail. >>> >>> >>> Infra knows this process change places an increasing burden on PMC >> members for managing contributors, and makes it harder for people to >> contribute bug reports. We suggest projects consider using GitHub Issues >> for customer-facing questions/bug reports/etc., while maintaining >> development issues on Jira. You can enable GitHub Issues for your >> repository via >>> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INFRA/Git+-+.asf.yaml+features#Git.asf.yamlfeatures-Repositoryfeatures >>> >>> >>> Infra has targeted 6 November for the date we switch off public signups >> for issues.apache.org/jira . Please let us know if this will place any >> significant burden on your teams. We are following an aggressive timeline >> because of the serious impact spam users have on the safety and stability >> of our infrastructure. >>> >>> As always, if you have any questions or comments about this, please let >> us know! >>> >>> -Chris (fluxo) >>> >>> -- >>> @fluxo >>> Chris Lambertus >>> ASF Infrastructure >>> >>
