What am I missing here?  In looking at all the project sites none of our logos 
have a feather in them. Once the ASF provides a replacement logo we can simply 
replace it.

Why are we talking about new logos? FWIW none of our projects existed in the 
1980s so I don’t know where that comment came from. I believe it was Gary who 
won the contest for that 10 or so years ago. I still like it.

Ralph

> On Jul 22, 2024, at 12:58 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I find it peculiar that ALL feathers are now illegal. What about the
> feather of a Phoenix?
> 
> On Mon, Jul 22, 2024, 3:37 PM Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> I am only asking to remove native american imagery as the feathers.
>> As I was involved in the branding process, I am confident we can remove
>> them.
>> 
>> We can update the 1980-style logo after the ASF logo was voted on.
>> Until then, we will be compliant almost immediately by dropping the
>> feathers.
>> 
>> I didn't expect any negative feedback for removing the feathers, but
>> please let me know if anyone is really opposed to it or if it is just a
>> general comment
>> 
>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024, at 12:01, Gary Gregory wrote:
>>> That sounds good.
>>> 
>>> I'm not doing the work here but I would imagine that if I did I'd only
>> want
>>> to do it once ;-) For my time, I'd either strip the images and call it
>>> done, or wait for new images.
>>> 
>>> Gary
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024, 1:45 AM Dominik Psenner <dpsen...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> The blog post mentions the 7 oct 2024 as the deadline to be compliant.
>> This
>>>> coincides with the day when the new marketing guidelines are unveiled.
>> It
>>>> is probably impossible to implement this within hours. Therefore I
>> propose
>>>> to ask Marketing for assistance/guiding/new marketing material right
>> now in
>>>> the light of the upcoming deadline. It will take some time anyway until
>> we
>>>> receive a feedback, maybe even several feedback loops. With this action
>> we
>>>> can be well ahead of any upcoming deadline and do not have to rush for
>> any
>>>> changes. And we may even be able to evaluate whether we want to remove
>> OR
>>>> replace existing images. Primarily to avoid breaking links, but
>> ultimately
>>>> also updating marketing material in a retrospective.
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, 19 Jul 2024, 21:41 Gary Gregory, <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I think this is a bad idea because it is putting the cart before the
>>>> horse
>>>>> as we say in English. Let Apache come up with our new branding and
>> then
>>>> use
>>>>> that. It seems all feathers of any kind are not allowed?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gary
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2024, 2:15 PM Christian Grobmeier <
>> grobme...@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> following this blog post:
>>>>>> https://news.apache.org/foundation/entry/evolving-the-asf-brand
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I would like to propose to remove all feathers as here:
>>>>>> https://logging.apache.org/
>>>>>> https://logging.apache.org/log4j/2.x/images/ls-logo.jpg
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And all sub-websites with simlar images.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I would like to move on with this now, since it will take quite a
>> while
>>>>> to
>>>>>> complete it anyway.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 

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