On Mon, Jul 22, 2024, at 21:58, Gary Gregory wrote:
> I find it peculiar that ALL feathers are now illegal. What about the
> feather of a Phoenix?
I am very tired of this kind of discussion. Feathers combined with our name are
of course always problematic. Everything else is pedantic.
There was a giant discussion on why we should work on the bread as my a while
back. We can certainly just remove the feathers, there is no harm done.
I find it ridiculous that we even discuss this instead of just removing one
totally useless image from our front page
>
> On Mon, Jul 22, 2024, 3:37 PM Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> I am only asking to remove native american imagery as the feathers.
>> As I was involved in the branding process, I am confident we can remove
>> them.
>>
>> We can update the 1980-style logo after the ASF logo was voted on.
>> Until then, we will be compliant almost immediately by dropping the
>> feathers.
>>
>> I didn't expect any negative feedback for removing the feathers, but
>> please let me know if anyone is really opposed to it or if it is just a
>> general comment
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024, at 12:01, Gary Gregory wrote:
>> > That sounds good.
>> >
>> > I'm not doing the work here but I would imagine that if I did I'd only
>> want
>> > to do it once ;-) For my time, I'd either strip the images and call it
>> > done, or wait for new images.
>> >
>> > Gary
>> >
>> > On Sat, Jul 20, 2024, 1:45 AM Dominik Psenner <dpsen...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> The blog post mentions the 7 oct 2024 as the deadline to be compliant.
>> This
>> >> coincides with the day when the new marketing guidelines are unveiled.
>> It
>> >> is probably impossible to implement this within hours. Therefore I
>> propose
>> >> to ask Marketing for assistance/guiding/new marketing material right
>> now in
>> >> the light of the upcoming deadline. It will take some time anyway until
>> we
>> >> receive a feedback, maybe even several feedback loops. With this action
>> we
>> >> can be well ahead of any upcoming deadline and do not have to rush for
>> any
>> >> changes. And we may even be able to evaluate whether we want to remove
>> OR
>> >> replace existing images. Primarily to avoid breaking links, but
>> ultimately
>> >> also updating marketing material in a retrospective.
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, 19 Jul 2024, 21:41 Gary Gregory, <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > I think this is a bad idea because it is putting the cart before the
>> >> horse
>> >> > as we say in English. Let Apache come up with our new branding and
>> then
>> >> use
>> >> > that. It seems all feathers of any kind are not allowed?
>> >> >
>> >> > Gary
>> >> >
>> >> > On Fri, Jul 19, 2024, 2:15 PM Christian Grobmeier <
>> grobme...@apache.org>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > Hello,
>> >> > >
>> >> > > following this blog post:
>> >> > > https://news.apache.org/foundation/entry/evolving-the-asf-brand
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I would like to propose to remove all feathers as here:
>> >> > > https://logging.apache.org/
>> >> > > https://logging.apache.org/log4j/2.x/images/ls-logo.jpg
>> >> > >
>> >> > > And all sub-websites with simlar images.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I would like to move on with this now, since it will take quite a
>> while
>> >> > to
>> >> > > complete it anyway.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Thoughts?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Kind regards,
>> >> > > Christian
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >>
>>
