On Tue, Jul 23, 2024, at 08:23, Ralph Goers wrote:
> What am I missing here?  In looking at all the project sites none of 
> our logos have a feather in them. Once the ASF provides a replacement 
> logo we can simply replace it.

I am talking about the feathers on the front page. Not necessary the logo

> Why are we talking about new logos? FWIW none of our projects existed 
> in the 1980s so I don’t know where that comment came from. I believe it 
> was Gary who won the contest for that 10 or so years ago. I still like 
> it.

The log 4j 2 logo was done by Murat. It is nothing to do wir approbation and 
does not need any change. 

Again, I want to remove feathers.

> Ralph
>
>> On Jul 22, 2024, at 12:58 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I find it peculiar that ALL feathers are now illegal. What about the
>> feather of a Phoenix?
>> 
>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2024, 3:37 PM Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I am only asking to remove native american imagery as the feathers.
>>> As I was involved in the branding process, I am confident we can remove
>>> them.
>>> 
>>> We can update the 1980-style logo after the ASF logo was voted on.
>>> Until then, we will be compliant almost immediately by dropping the
>>> feathers.
>>> 
>>> I didn't expect any negative feedback for removing the feathers, but
>>> please let me know if anyone is really opposed to it or if it is just a
>>> general comment
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024, at 12:01, Gary Gregory wrote:
>>>> That sounds good.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm not doing the work here but I would imagine that if I did I'd only
>>> want
>>>> to do it once ;-) For my time, I'd either strip the images and call it
>>>> done, or wait for new images.
>>>> 
>>>> Gary
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024, 1:45 AM Dominik Psenner <dpsen...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> The blog post mentions the 7 oct 2024 as the deadline to be compliant.
>>> This
>>>>> coincides with the day when the new marketing guidelines are unveiled.
>>> It
>>>>> is probably impossible to implement this within hours. Therefore I
>>> propose
>>>>> to ask Marketing for assistance/guiding/new marketing material right
>>> now in
>>>>> the light of the upcoming deadline. It will take some time anyway until
>>> we
>>>>> receive a feedback, maybe even several feedback loops. With this action
>>> we
>>>>> can be well ahead of any upcoming deadline and do not have to rush for
>>> any
>>>>> changes. And we may even be able to evaluate whether we want to remove
>>> OR
>>>>> replace existing images. Primarily to avoid breaking links, but
>>> ultimately
>>>>> also updating marketing material in a retrospective.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, 19 Jul 2024, 21:41 Gary Gregory, <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think this is a bad idea because it is putting the cart before the
>>>>> horse
>>>>>> as we say in English. Let Apache come up with our new branding and
>>> then
>>>>> use
>>>>>> that. It seems all feathers of any kind are not allowed?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2024, 2:15 PM Christian Grobmeier <
>>> grobme...@apache.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> following this blog post:
>>>>>>> https://news.apache.org/foundation/entry/evolving-the-asf-brand
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I would like to propose to remove all feathers as here:
>>>>>>> https://logging.apache.org/
>>>>>>> https://logging.apache.org/log4j/2.x/images/ls-logo.jpg
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And all sub-websites with simlar images.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I would like to move on with this now, since it will take quite a
>>> while
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> complete it anyway.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>

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