Thanks Steve!

Le mar. 11 sept. 2018 à 18:02, Steve Rowe <sar...@gmail.com> a écrit :

> Hi Jim,
>
> > On Sep 11, 2018, at 11:32 AM, jim ferenczi <jim.feren...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Could someone help to setup the Jenkins releases build ? It seems that I
> cannot create jobs with my account.
>
>
> Each project's PMC Chair is responsible for granting job
> creation/modification permissions on Jenkins:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INFRA/Jenkins#Jenkins-HowdoIgetanaccount
>
> I’ll go create the 7.5 jobs now.
>
> --
> Steve
> www.lucidworks.com
>
> > On Sep 11, 2018, at 11:32 AM, jim ferenczi <jim.feren...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > No worries at all Cassandra. What do you think of building the first RC
> on Friday and start the vote on Monday next week ? This will leave some
> > room to finish the missing bits.
> > Could someone help to setup the Jenkins releases build ? It seems that I
> cannot create jobs with my account.
> >
> > Le mar. 11 sept. 2018 à 14:08, Cassandra Targett <casstarg...@gmail.com>
> a écrit :
> > Sorry, Jim, I should have replied yesterday about the state of things
> with the Ref Guide - it's close. I'm doing the last bit of big review I
> need to do and am nearly done with that, then I have a couple more small
> things done (including SOLR-12763 which I just created since I forgot to do
> it earlier). My goal is to be done by the end of my day today so you could
> do the RC tomorrow, but who knows what the day will bring work-wise, so
> I'll send another mail at the end of the day my time to let you know for
> sure.
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 9:07 AM jim ferenczi <jim.feren...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I just fixed the invalid version (7.5.1) that I added in master and 7x.
> The next version on these branches should be 7.6.0, sorry for the noise.
> >
> > Le lun. 10 sept. 2018 à 09:26, jim ferenczi <jim.feren...@gmail.com> a
> écrit :
> > Hi,
> >
> > Feature freeze for 7.5 has started, I just created a branch_7_5.:
> >
> > * No new features may be committed to the branch.
> > * Documentation patches, build patches and serious bug fixes may be
> committed to the branch. However, you should submit all patches you want to
> commit to Jira first to give others the chance to review and possibly vote
> against the patch. Keep in mind that it is our main intention to keep the
> branch as stable as possible.
> > * All patches that are intended for the branch should first be committed
> to the unstable branch, merged into the stable branch, and then into the
> current release branch.
> > * Normal unstable and stable branch development may continue as usual.
> However, if you plan to commit a big change to the unstable branch while
> the branch feature freeze is in effect, think twice: can't the addition
> wait a couple more days? Merges of bug fixes into the branch may become
> more difficult.
> > * Only Jira issues with Fix version "7.5" and priority "Blocker" will
> delay a release candidate build.
> >
> > I'll create the first RC later this week depending on the status of the
> Solr ref guide. Cassandra, can you update the status when you think that
> the ref guide is ready (no rush just a reminder that we need to sync during
> this release ;) ) ?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jim
> >
> > Le mer. 5 sept. 2018 à 17:57, Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com>
> a écrit :
> > Great, thanks!
> > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 8:44 AM jim ferenczi <jim.feren...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sure it can wait a few days. Let's cut the branch next Monday and we
> can sync with Cassandra to create the first RC when the ref guide is ready.
> > >
> > > Le mer. 5 sept. 2018 à 17:27, Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com>
> a écrit :
> > >>
> > >> Jim:
> > >>
> > >> I know it's the 11th hour, but WDYT about cutting the branch next
> > >> Monday? We see a flurry of activity (announcing a release does
> > >> that....) and waiting to cut the branch might be easiest all 'round.
> > >>
> > >> Up to you of course, I can backport the test fixes I'd like for
> > >> instance and I'd like to get the upgraded ZooKeeper in 7.5.
> > >>
> > >> Erick
> > >> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 1:04 PM Cassandra Targett <
> casstarg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > It's not so much the building of the RC as giving the content a
> detailed editorial review.
> > >> >
> > >> > The build/release process itself is well-documented and published
> with every Ref Guide:
> https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/how-to-contribute.html#building-publishing-the-guide.
> It was designed from the artifact process, so it's nearly identical as a
> process. It's really barely a burden.
> > >> >
> > >> > In terms of preparing the content, there are a number of things I
> do:
> > >> >
> > >> > First, I try to ensure that every issue in CHANGES.txt that should
> be documented has been documented. That involves an intensive review of
> CHANGES.txt and a comparison with commits to find what might be missing,
> then chasing people down to see if they intend to make changes or not.
> Assuming the person responds, then it's waiting for them to get their stuff
> done. This is usually about 2-3 days of effort, before the waiting around
> for answers and/or commits.
> > >> >
> > >> > Then I review every commit and read it for clarity and correct
> English usage. Does it fit where someone put it? Does it explain what the
> author is hoping it explains? Also, many of our authors are not native
> English writers, and deserve the assistance of an editor to help put their
> work in the best possible light. In some cases, I feel I should extensively
> edit the contribution, which occasionally involves also immersing myself
> into the change itself. This is another 2-4 days of effort.
> > >> >
> > >> > Then there's this list of problems people commit all the time, many
> of which I can often resolve reasonably quickly with find/replace:
> > >> >
> > >> > - sentences that don't end in periods
> > >> > - inconsistency with instances of "i.e.," and "e.g.," (not "i.e.",
> "ie:", "IE", etc.)
> > >> > - no spaces between words and punctuation (commas, colons,
> periods), such as "here is :" or "word , word"
> > >> > - used sentence case for section titles instead of headline case
> > >> > - used abbreviations instead of the correct word ("ZK" instead of
> "ZooKeeper" being the biggest one here, but also "params" instead of
> "parameters" is quite common)
> > >> > - misspellings like "Zookeeper" instead of "ZooKeeper, or "solr"
> instead of "Solr"
> > >> > - config file names and parameter names/values not in monospace
> > >> > - lists of parameters are not properly formatted (should not be in
> tables)
> > >> >
> > >> > These are all to make the Ref Guide as consistent, cohesive, and
> easy to read as possible. It may be written by 30 people but it shouldn't
> read like it is.
> > >> >
> > >> > Should I do all this while the commits are coming through? Sure,
> but the reality is I can't. If we want to release the moment someone
> proposes a release, then most of my find/replace list above needs to go
> into precommit so these problems don't make it into the Guide to begin
> with. (Which might be onerous since we'd all get stalled waiting for
> someone to fix a typo...but really, precommit is meant in part to find your
> typos so why should this be different?)
> > >> >
> > >> > It would always still need editorial review, however, and that's
> not something we'll ever be able to fully automate. I'm more than happy to
> have a little help there, but assume since people aren't doing it today
> they don't have time, don't feel they have the skills, or don't want to
> bother. Or maybe I just kill myself for a level of quality no one else
> cares about...not sure I can stop doing it though if I'm the RM.
> > >> >
> > >> > (as a side note on that though, if we do merge the releases
> someday, then whoever RMs is going to have to wait for these editorial
> processes to be completed or the vote may fail because the Ref Guide reads
> like crap.)
> > >> >
> > >> > On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 11:33 AM jim ferenczi <
> jim.feren...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Thanks for explaining the situation Cassandra. I was planning to
> build the first RC beginning of next week to give people a week to discover
> blockers. I can certainly slow down things but I don't think that the timing
> > >> >> differs from other releases. I am not aware of the operations that
> are required for the Ref guide release process but what do you think of
> sharing the tasks with the RM ? We could even merge the two releases and
> make the RM responsible of both if the process is documented.  I'd be happy
> to experiment this for the 7.5 release if you want.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Le mar. 4 sept. 2018 à 17:55, Cassandra Targett <
> casstarg...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> I'm not objecting per se, but I feel like we used to propose a
> version and then give people a week before the branch was cut. Maybe that
> was just RM choice? From a personal perspective, I much prefer that model
> because the Ref Guide requires A LOT of my attention and my work there
> kicks into high gear as soon as a release is proposed.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Even though the artifact and Ref Guide release processes are
> separate today, we want them to be a single process, so I need to act as
> though your timeframe for the RC is the deadline for Ref Guide edits to do
> an RC of the Ref Guide at the same time. That means I'm on your timetable,
> no matter what else I may have promised to my bosses and colleagues. It's
> stressful already to try to get it all done - I usually don't finish
> everything I want to do - and adding the burden of having to backport
> everything to 2 branches instead of 1 just makes it tedious as well.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Also, yesterday was a major holiday in the US, and as of this
> moment it's not even noon on the East Coast, so there's a percentage of the
> community who may not even have seen your proposal yet.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> I greatly appreciate that you've volunteered to do the release
> and are energized to get it rolling, but is there a reason an RC has to be
> done by the beginning of next week?
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 10:36 AM Joel Bernstein <
> joels...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> +1,
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> I'll likely be adding some Solr RefGuide changes later in the
> week to the 7.5 branch but I'll make sure they don't effect the build.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Joel Bernstein
> > >> >>>> http://joelsolr.blogspot.com/
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 10:52 AM jim ferenczi <
> jim.feren...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> Thanks all,
> > >> >>>>> since there are no objections I am planning to cut the branch
> for 7.5 tomorrow. I'll build the first RC early next week so there will be
> some room to merge important bug fixes later this week. All blockers except
> SOLR-12727 seem to be merged/resolved, I'll watch the remaining solr issue
> for updates.
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> Le mar. 4 sept. 2018 à 10:21, jim ferenczi <
> jim.feren...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> Sure Jan, this is a nice cleanup, +1 to backport in 7x.
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> Le mar. 4 sept. 2018 à 10:16, Jan Høydahl <
> jan....@cominvent.com> a écrit :
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> Jim, we have some release process improvements in
> LUCENE-5143. Basically, we'll only have one KEYS file instead of three plus
> those in the versioned folders that we have today. And the release py
> script will start checking that the RM's key is present in the KEYS file.
> Would you be ok with that being committed and you being the first RM to use
> it for 7.5.0?
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> --
> > >> >>>>>>> Jan Høydahl, search solution architect
> > >> >>>>>>> Cominvent AS - www.cominvent.com
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> 3. sep. 2018 kl. 10:42 skrev jim ferenczi <
> jim.feren...@gmail.com>:
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> Hi all,
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> 7.4 has been released two months ago on June 29th and we have
> new features, enhancements and fixes that are not released yet so I'd like
> to start working on releasing Lucene/Solr 7.5.0.
> > >> >>>>>>> There's also a bad bug with index sorting that deletes the
> wrong documents when delete by query is used:
> > >> >>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8466
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> I can create the 7.5 branch later this week and build the
> first RC early next week if that works for everyone. Please let me know if
> there are bug fixes that needs to be fixed in 7.5 and might not be ready by
> then.
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> Cheers,
> > >> >>>>>>> Jim
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>
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