Sorry but this was just committed to master and branch_7x and I see some
discussions regarding the implication of this change. Is it really safe to
include it in 7.5 ?

Le mar. 11 sept. 2018 à 21:43, Varun Thacker <va...@vthacker.in> a écrit :

> Hi Jim,
>
> I'd like to backport SOLR-11836 if that's okay with you. It's a trivial
> fix which I committed to master and branch_7x a little while ago.
>
> On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 9:09 AM jim ferenczi <jim.feren...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Steve!
>>
>> Le mar. 11 sept. 2018 à 18:02, Steve Rowe <sar...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi Jim,
>>>
>>> > On Sep 11, 2018, at 11:32 AM, jim ferenczi <jim.feren...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Could someone help to setup the Jenkins releases build ? It seems that
>>> I cannot create jobs with my account.
>>>
>>>
>>> Each project's PMC Chair is responsible for granting job
>>> creation/modification permissions on Jenkins:
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INFRA/Jenkins#Jenkins-HowdoIgetanaccount
>>>
>>> I’ll go create the 7.5 jobs now.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Steve
>>> www.lucidworks.com
>>>
>>> > On Sep 11, 2018, at 11:32 AM, jim ferenczi <jim.feren...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > No worries at all Cassandra. What do you think of building the first
>>> RC on Friday and start the vote on Monday next week ? This will leave some
>>> > room to finish the missing bits.
>>> > Could someone help to setup the Jenkins releases build ? It seems that
>>> I cannot create jobs with my account.
>>> >
>>> > Le mar. 11 sept. 2018 à 14:08, Cassandra Targett <
>>> casstarg...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>> > Sorry, Jim, I should have replied yesterday about the state of things
>>> with the Ref Guide - it's close. I'm doing the last bit of big review I
>>> need to do and am nearly done with that, then I have a couple more small
>>> things done (including SOLR-12763 which I just created since I forgot to do
>>> it earlier). My goal is to be done by the end of my day today so you could
>>> do the RC tomorrow, but who knows what the day will bring work-wise, so
>>> I'll send another mail at the end of the day my time to let you know for
>>> sure.
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 9:07 AM jim ferenczi <jim.feren...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > I just fixed the invalid version (7.5.1) that I added in master and
>>> 7x. The next version on these branches should be 7.6.0, sorry for the noise.
>>> >
>>> > Le lun. 10 sept. 2018 à 09:26, jim ferenczi <jim.feren...@gmail.com>
>>> a écrit :
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > Feature freeze for 7.5 has started, I just created a branch_7_5.:
>>> >
>>> > * No new features may be committed to the branch.
>>> > * Documentation patches, build patches and serious bug fixes may be
>>> committed to the branch. However, you should submit all patches you want to
>>> commit to Jira first to give others the chance to review and possibly vote
>>> against the patch. Keep in mind that it is our main intention to keep the
>>> branch as stable as possible.
>>> > * All patches that are intended for the branch should first be
>>> committed to the unstable branch, merged into the stable branch, and then
>>> into the current release branch.
>>> > * Normal unstable and stable branch development may continue as usual.
>>> However, if you plan to commit a big change to the unstable branch while
>>> the branch feature freeze is in effect, think twice: can't the addition
>>> wait a couple more days? Merges of bug fixes into the branch may become
>>> more difficult.
>>> > * Only Jira issues with Fix version "7.5" and priority "Blocker" will
>>> delay a release candidate build.
>>> >
>>> > I'll create the first RC later this week depending on the status of
>>> the Solr ref guide. Cassandra, can you update the status when you think
>>> that the ref guide is ready (no rush just a reminder that we need to sync
>>> during this release ;) ) ?
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> > Jim
>>> >
>>> > Le mer. 5 sept. 2018 à 17:57, Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com>
>>> a écrit :
>>> > Great, thanks!
>>> > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 8:44 AM jim ferenczi <jim.feren...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > Sure it can wait a few days. Let's cut the branch next Monday and we
>>> can sync with Cassandra to create the first RC when the ref guide is ready.
>>> > >
>>> > > Le mer. 5 sept. 2018 à 17:27, Erick Erickson <
>>> erickerick...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Jim:
>>> > >>
>>> > >> I know it's the 11th hour, but WDYT about cutting the branch next
>>> > >> Monday? We see a flurry of activity (announcing a release does
>>> > >> that....) and waiting to cut the branch might be easiest all 'round.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Up to you of course, I can backport the test fixes I'd like for
>>> > >> instance and I'd like to get the upgraded ZooKeeper in 7.5.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Erick
>>> > >> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 1:04 PM Cassandra Targett <
>>> casstarg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > It's not so much the building of the RC as giving the content a
>>> detailed editorial review.
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > The build/release process itself is well-documented and published
>>> with every Ref Guide:
>>> https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/how-to-contribute.html#building-publishing-the-guide.
>>> It was designed from the artifact process, so it's nearly identical as a
>>> process. It's really barely a burden.
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > In terms of preparing the content, there are a number of things I
>>> do:
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > First, I try to ensure that every issue in CHANGES.txt that
>>> should be documented has been documented. That involves an intensive review
>>> of CHANGES.txt and a comparison with commits to find what might be missing,
>>> then chasing people down to see if they intend to make changes or not.
>>> Assuming the person responds, then it's waiting for them to get their stuff
>>> done. This is usually about 2-3 days of effort, before the waiting around
>>> for answers and/or commits.
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Then I review every commit and read it for clarity and correct
>>> English usage. Does it fit where someone put it? Does it explain what the
>>> author is hoping it explains? Also, many of our authors are not native
>>> English writers, and deserve the assistance of an editor to help put their
>>> work in the best possible light. In some cases, I feel I should extensively
>>> edit the contribution, which occasionally involves also immersing myself
>>> into the change itself. This is another 2-4 days of effort.
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Then there's this list of problems people commit all the time,
>>> many of which I can often resolve reasonably quickly with find/replace:
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > - sentences that don't end in periods
>>> > >> > - inconsistency with instances of "i.e.," and "e.g.," (not
>>> "i.e.", "ie:", "IE", etc.)
>>> > >> > - no spaces between words and punctuation (commas, colons,
>>> periods), such as "here is :" or "word , word"
>>> > >> > - used sentence case for section titles instead of headline case
>>> > >> > - used abbreviations instead of the correct word ("ZK" instead of
>>> "ZooKeeper" being the biggest one here, but also "params" instead of
>>> "parameters" is quite common)
>>> > >> > - misspellings like "Zookeeper" instead of "ZooKeeper, or "solr"
>>> instead of "Solr"
>>> > >> > - config file names and parameter names/values not in monospace
>>> > >> > - lists of parameters are not properly formatted (should not be
>>> in tables)
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > These are all to make the Ref Guide as consistent, cohesive, and
>>> easy to read as possible. It may be written by 30 people but it shouldn't
>>> read like it is.
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Should I do all this while the commits are coming through? Sure,
>>> but the reality is I can't. If we want to release the moment someone
>>> proposes a release, then most of my find/replace list above needs to go
>>> into precommit so these problems don't make it into the Guide to begin
>>> with. (Which might be onerous since we'd all get stalled waiting for
>>> someone to fix a typo...but really, precommit is meant in part to find your
>>> typos so why should this be different?)
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > It would always still need editorial review, however, and that's
>>> not something we'll ever be able to fully automate. I'm more than happy to
>>> have a little help there, but assume since people aren't doing it today
>>> they don't have time, don't feel they have the skills, or don't want to
>>> bother. Or maybe I just kill myself for a level of quality no one else
>>> cares about...not sure I can stop doing it though if I'm the RM.
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > (as a side note on that though, if we do merge the releases
>>> someday, then whoever RMs is going to have to wait for these editorial
>>> processes to be completed or the vote may fail because the Ref Guide reads
>>> like crap.)
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 11:33 AM jim ferenczi <
>>> jim.feren...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >> >> Thanks for explaining the situation Cassandra. I was planning to
>>> build the first RC beginning of next week to give people a week to discover
>>> blockers. I can certainly slow down things but I don't think that the timing
>>> > >> >> differs from other releases. I am not aware of the operations
>>> that are required for the Ref guide release process but what do you think
>>> of sharing the tasks with the RM ? We could even merge the two releases and
>>> make the RM responsible of both if the process is documented.  I'd be happy
>>> to experiment this for the 7.5 release if you want.
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >> >> Le mar. 4 sept. 2018 à 17:55, Cassandra Targett <
>>> casstarg...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>> > >> >>>
>>> > >> >>> I'm not objecting per se, but I feel like we used to propose a
>>> version and then give people a week before the branch was cut. Maybe that
>>> was just RM choice? From a personal perspective, I much prefer that model
>>> because the Ref Guide requires A LOT of my attention and my work there
>>> kicks into high gear as soon as a release is proposed.
>>> > >> >>>
>>> > >> >>> Even though the artifact and Ref Guide release processes are
>>> separate today, we want them to be a single process, so I need to act as
>>> though your timeframe for the RC is the deadline for Ref Guide edits to do
>>> an RC of the Ref Guide at the same time. That means I'm on your timetable,
>>> no matter what else I may have promised to my bosses and colleagues. It's
>>> stressful already to try to get it all done - I usually don't finish
>>> everything I want to do - and adding the burden of having to backport
>>> everything to 2 branches instead of 1 just makes it tedious as well.
>>> > >> >>>
>>> > >> >>> Also, yesterday was a major holiday in the US, and as of this
>>> moment it's not even noon on the East Coast, so there's a percentage of the
>>> community who may not even have seen your proposal yet.
>>> > >> >>>
>>> > >> >>> I greatly appreciate that you've volunteered to do the release
>>> and are energized to get it rolling, but is there a reason an RC has to be
>>> done by the beginning of next week?
>>> > >> >>>
>>> > >> >>> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 10:36 AM Joel Bernstein <
>>> joels...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >> >>>>
>>> > >> >>>> +1,
>>> > >> >>>>
>>> > >> >>>> I'll likely be adding some Solr RefGuide changes later in the
>>> week to the 7.5 branch but I'll make sure they don't effect the build.
>>> > >> >>>>
>>> > >> >>>>
>>> > >> >>>> Joel Bernstein
>>> > >> >>>> http://joelsolr.blogspot.com/
>>> > >> >>>>
>>> > >> >>>>
>>> > >> >>>> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 10:52 AM jim ferenczi <
>>> jim.feren...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >> >>>>>
>>> > >> >>>>> Thanks all,
>>> > >> >>>>> since there are no objections I am planning to cut the branch
>>> for 7.5 tomorrow. I'll build the first RC early next week so there will be
>>> some room to merge important bug fixes later this week. All blockers except
>>> SOLR-12727 seem to be merged/resolved, I'll watch the remaining solr issue
>>> for updates.
>>> > >> >>>>>
>>> > >> >>>>> Le mar. 4 sept. 2018 à 10:21, jim ferenczi <
>>> jim.feren...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>> > >> >>>>>>
>>> > >> >>>>>> Sure Jan, this is a nice cleanup, +1 to backport in 7x.
>>> > >> >>>>>>
>>> > >> >>>>>> Le mar. 4 sept. 2018 à 10:16, Jan Høydahl <
>>> jan....@cominvent.com> a écrit :
>>> > >> >>>>>>>
>>> > >> >>>>>>> Jim, we have some release process improvements in
>>> LUCENE-5143. Basically, we'll only have one KEYS file instead of three plus
>>> those in the versioned folders that we have today. And the release py
>>> script will start checking that the RM's key is present in the KEYS file.
>>> Would you be ok with that being committed and you being the first RM to use
>>> it for 7.5.0?
>>> > >> >>>>>>>
>>> > >> >>>>>>> --
>>> > >> >>>>>>> Jan Høydahl, search solution architect
>>> > >> >>>>>>> Cominvent AS - www.cominvent.com
>>> > >> >>>>>>>
>>> > >> >>>>>>> 3. sep. 2018 kl. 10:42 skrev jim ferenczi <
>>> jim.feren...@gmail.com>:
>>> > >> >>>>>>>
>>> > >> >>>>>>> Hi all,
>>> > >> >>>>>>>
>>> > >> >>>>>>> 7.4 has been released two months ago on June 29th and we
>>> have new features, enhancements and fixes that are not released yet so I'd
>>> like to start working on releasing Lucene/Solr 7.5.0.
>>> > >> >>>>>>> There's also a bad bug with index sorting that deletes the
>>> wrong documents when delete by query is used:
>>> > >> >>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8466
>>> > >> >>>>>>>
>>> > >> >>>>>>> I can create the 7.5 branch later this week and build the
>>> first RC early next week if that works for everyone. Please let me know if
>>> there are bug fixes that needs to be fixed in 7.5 and might not be ready by
>>> then.
>>> > >> >>>>>>>
>>> > >> >>>>>>> Cheers,
>>> > >> >>>>>>> Jim
>>> > >> >>>>>>>
>>> > >> >>>>>>>
>>> > >>
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