@Erick assign me a (not too large) dir... I'll help.

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 11:33 AM David Smiley <david.w.smi...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> My proposal to disregard entire classes of warnings was intended to be a
> short term strategy and not long term.  It allows you to fix some problems
> completely  before moving onto others.  Additionally, we can tweak the
> linter settings per-module.  The final end state in the future is not to
> have such linter customizations.
>
> ~ David
>
>
> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 11:22 AM Mike Drob <md...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> I agree with the one warning at a time approach. That one seems most
>> feasible to take piecemeal
>>
>> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 10:19 AM Andras Salamon <
>> andras.sala...@melda.info> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> We have quite a few warnings, it would be difficult to fix them at once.
>>> Checking one directory (or warning type) and handling 10-20 warnings at the
>>> same time seems more reasonable.
>>>
>>> There are two umbrella jiras for that:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-10778 and
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-7907
>>>
>>> I have two jiras in patch-available status:
>>>
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-9323
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-14266
>>>
>>> Andras
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 4:28 PM Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gus:
>>>>
>>>> When it comes to actually removing the necessity of suppresswarnings
>>>> IntelliJ makes a lot of this much easier. The issue is that it’s too much
>>>> work for any one person to have a hope of doing in any reasonable period
>>>> without introducing errors.
>>>>
>>>> There are just too many warnings for one person to have a hope of
>>>> thinking carefully about all of them, so my strategy is to stop adding to
>>>> the problem, raise awareness when it happens etc. I think to remove the
>>>> necessity for SuppressWarnings will require extensive work, best approached
>>>> over time, not in a huge wodge.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Erick
>>>>
>>>> > On May 11, 2020, at 9:25 AM, Gus Heck <gus.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > I typically battle warnings by conquering one file/directory at a
>>>> time... And letting Intellij take me from warning to warning with F2 key
>>>> really really really speeds things up. This is a wider set than compiler
>>>> warnings, but you can customize it, and many of the additional warnings are
>>>> auto-solvable (things like redundant initializers for variables that are
>>>> already assigned before use), so the extra work is more than paid for by
>>>> the reduction in transition time. The key one to think carefully about is
>>>> the one that wants to minimize access, which is great for new classes,
>>>> dangerous for released classes. Perhaps turn that warning off in
>>>> intellij...
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 8:14 AM Atri Sharma <a...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> > +1 to Erick’s proposal.
>>>> >
>>>> > I hate the number of warnings we get — we should still be formulating
>>>> some sort of a strategy to fix them.
>>>> >
>>>> > Atri
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, 11 May 2020 at 17:09, Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Just disabling the warning globally nothing to prevent more being
>>>> added. Take raw types. They’re a compromise allowed by the java compiler
>>>> explicitly to be able to continue to use older binaries written before (or
>>>> without) generics. But take a look at SolrQueryResponse for instance. We
>>>> explicitly declare:
>>>> >
>>>> > protected NamedList<Object> values = new SimpleOrderedMap<>();
>>>> >
>>>> > but then declare a method:
>>>> >
>>>> > public NamedList getValues() { return values; }
>>>> >
>>>> > This is just bad practice.
>>>> >
>>>> > I don’t mind the grunt work, keeps me from stupid surfing. I’m
>>>> proposing that I fix what’s easy, and suppress the rest.
>>>> >
>>>> > It might have been clearer if I’d said “Then start failing builds on
>>>> any new warnings of these types”.
>>>> >
>>>> > Oh, and I’m also thinking of changing my BadApple report to flag when
>>>> new SuppressWarnings are introduced and then nag people about new ones.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > > On May 10, 2020, at 11:43 PM, David Smiley <
>>>> david.w.smi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Can't we customize the linting to disregard entire categories of
>>>> certain warnings for now?  This makes your task manageable.
>>>> > > https://discuss.gradle.org/t/recompile-with-xlint-parameters/25279
>>>> > >
>>>> > > ~ David
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 10:41 PM Erick Erickson <
>>>> erickerick...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > > I’m really struggling with what to do with compiler warnings,
>>>> particularly all the rawtypes and unchecked warnings.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On the one hand, the simple mechanical thing to do would be to
>>>> SuppressWarnings on each one that exists presently. Frankly that feels
>>>> pretty useless; that would preserve poor code forever.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > OTOH, actually _fixing_ the issues to not have, say, rawtypes is
>>>> going to be time consuming and error-prone. Especially since I don’t really
>>>> understand all the nuances yet and learning them one by one will introduce
>>>> serious errors without doubt.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > So here’s what I propose. Even though it feels useless, just
>>>> SuppressWarnings on anything that’s not a simple fix. Then start failing
>>>> builds on these warnings to catch any that come in in future. At least that
>>>> way there’ll be some incentive to keep the code from getting _worse_,
>>>> although people will still be able to just add SuppressWarnings to the mix
>>>> I suppose.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > The number of raw NamedList member variables we have is
>>>> overwhelming all by itself….
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Comments?
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
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>>>> >
>>>> > Atri
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