Andras:

Yep, I saw a couple of those, I’m looking at how to incorporate. It may take 
another week or so, depending… Apologies for them sitting on the shelf for so 
long.



David:  Noted.

Mike:

Well, I’ve got some ready to look at more closely, I often tear into something 
for a while mostly to get a better feel for what it’ll take. I’ll probably post 
a PR for SOLR-10810 soon with what I’ve done so far, mainly getting auxiliary 
class warnings out of solr/core (which was something of a chore). Then on to 
Andras’ patches.

Gus:

The chunks are fairly big when it’s based on project. For instance solr/core or 
solrj/core or… I’m trying to get a clue how to break them up in to smaller 
chunks, directory-based would be best I think.

So here’s what I propose (I’ll take care of these steps):

1> get the PR in place for what I've done so far for SOLR-10810 (warning, it’s 
bigger than it should be, in future I need to take smaller bites) and push that 
upstream when we’re satisfied.

2> incorporate the changes Andras mentioned.

3> start the process of suppressing warnings. I propose that we make a list of 
subtasks from SOLR-10778 and assign them to whoever takes them on. If you can’t 
assign something to yourself, raise a subtask and make a note in the 
description that you’re working on XYZ.

Again, the short-term goal is to get clean compilations, fixing safe/simple 
warnings that we fully understand and SuppressWarnings for the rest. From there 
we’ll start failing on warnings when a project is clean.

Thanks!


> On May 11, 2020, at 11:40 AM, Gus Heck <gus.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> @Erick assign me a (not too large) dir... I'll help.
> 
> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 11:33 AM David Smiley <david.w.smi...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> My proposal to disregard entire classes of warnings was intended to be a 
> short term strategy and not long term.  It allows you to fix some problems 
> completely  before moving onto others.  Additionally, we can tweak the linter 
> settings per-module.  The final end state in the future is not to have such 
> linter customizations.
> 
> ~ David
> 
> 
> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 11:22 AM Mike Drob <md...@apache.org> wrote:
> I agree with the one warning at a time approach. That one seems most feasible 
> to take piecemeal
> 
> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 10:19 AM Andras Salamon <andras.sala...@melda.info> 
> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> We have quite a few warnings, it would be difficult to fix them at once. 
> Checking one directory (or warning type) and handling 10-20 warnings at the 
> same time seems more reasonable.
> 
> There are two umbrella jiras for that: 
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-10778 and 
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-7907
> 
> I have two jiras in patch-available status:
> 
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-9323
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-14266
> 
> Andras
> 
> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 4:28 PM Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> Gus:
> 
> When it comes to actually removing the necessity of suppresswarnings IntelliJ 
> makes a lot of this much easier. The issue is that it’s too much work for any 
> one person to have a hope of doing in any reasonable period without 
> introducing errors.
> 
> There are just too many warnings for one person to have a hope of thinking 
> carefully about all of them, so my strategy is to stop adding to the problem, 
> raise awareness when it happens etc. I think to remove the necessity for 
> SuppressWarnings will require extensive work, best approached over time, not 
> in a huge wodge.
> 
> Best,
> Erick
> 
> > On May 11, 2020, at 9:25 AM, Gus Heck <gus.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > I typically battle warnings by conquering one file/directory at a time... 
> > And letting Intellij take me from warning to warning with F2 key really 
> > really really speeds things up. This is a wider set than compiler warnings, 
> > but you can customize it, and many of the additional warnings are 
> > auto-solvable (things like redundant initializers for variables that are 
> > already assigned before use), so the extra work is more than paid for by 
> > the reduction in transition time. The key one to think carefully about is 
> > the one that wants to minimize access, which is great for new classes, 
> > dangerous for released classes. Perhaps turn that warning off in 
> > intellij...  
> > 
> > On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 8:14 AM Atri Sharma <a...@apache.org> wrote:
> > +1 to Erick’s proposal.
> > 
> > I hate the number of warnings we get — we should still be formulating some 
> > sort of a strategy to fix them.
> > 
> > Atri 
> > 
> > On Mon, 11 May 2020 at 17:09, Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com> 
> > wrote:
> > Just disabling the warning globally nothing to prevent more being added. 
> > Take raw types. They’re a compromise allowed by the java compiler 
> > explicitly to be able to continue to use older binaries written before (or 
> > without) generics. But take a look at SolrQueryResponse for instance. We 
> > explicitly declare:
> > 
> > protected NamedList<Object> values = new SimpleOrderedMap<>();
> > 
> > but then declare a method:
> > 
> > public NamedList getValues() { return values; }
> > 
> > This is just bad practice.
> > 
> > I don’t mind the grunt work, keeps me from stupid surfing. I’m proposing 
> > that I fix what’s easy, and suppress the rest.
> > 
> > It might have been clearer if I’d said “Then start failing builds on any 
> > new warnings of these types”.
> > 
> > Oh, and I’m also thinking of changing my BadApple report to flag when new 
> > SuppressWarnings are introduced and then nag people about new ones.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > On May 10, 2020, at 11:43 PM, David Smiley <david.w.smi...@gmail.com> 
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > Can't we customize the linting to disregard entire categories of certain 
> > > warnings for now?  This makes your task manageable.
> > > https://discuss.gradle.org/t/recompile-with-xlint-parameters/25279
> > > 
> > > ~ David
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 10:41 PM Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com> 
> > > wrote:
> > > I’m really struggling with what to do with compiler warnings, 
> > > particularly all the rawtypes and unchecked warnings.
> > > 
> > > On the one hand, the simple mechanical thing to do would be to 
> > > SuppressWarnings on each one that exists presently. Frankly that feels 
> > > pretty useless; that would preserve poor code forever.
> > > 
> > > OTOH, actually _fixing_ the issues to not have, say, rawtypes is going to 
> > > be time consuming and error-prone. Especially since I don’t really 
> > > understand all the nuances yet and learning them one by one will 
> > > introduce serious errors without doubt.
> > > 
> > > So here’s what I propose. Even though it feels useless, just 
> > > SuppressWarnings on anything that’s not a simple fix. Then start failing 
> > > builds on these warnings to catch any that come in in future. At least 
> > > that way there’ll be some incentive to keep the code from getting 
> > > _worse_, although people will still be able to just add SuppressWarnings 
> > > to the mix I suppose.
> > > 
> > > The number of raw NamedList member variables we have is overwhelming all 
> > > by itself….
> > > 
> > > Comments?
> > > 
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