For perspective, I'm still seeing java 11 as the norm for clients... 17 is uncommon. Anything requiring 21 is likely to be difficult to sell. I am however a small shop, and "migrating off of solr 6" and "trying out solr cloud" is still a thing for some clients.
Just a datapoint/anecdote, possibly skewed. On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 7:41 AM Chris Hegarty <christopher.hega...@elastic.co.invalid> wrote: > Hi Robert, > > > On 6 Nov 2023, at 12:24, Robert Muir <rcm...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> … > >> The only concern I have with no.2 is that it could be considered an > “aggressive” adoption of Java 21 - adoption sooner than the ecosystem can > handle, e.g. are environments in which Lucene is deployed, and their > transitive dependencies, ready to run on Java 21? By the time we’re ready > to release 10.0.0, say March 2023, then I expect no issue with this. > > > > The problem is worse, historically jdk version X isn't adopted as a > > minimum until it is already EOL. And the lucene major versions take an > > eternity to get out there, code just sits in "main" branch for years > > unreleased to nobody. It is really discouraging as a contributor to > > contribute code that literally sits on the shelf for years, for no > > good reason at all. > > Agreed. I also feel discouraged by this approach too, and also wanna > avoid the “backport the world”, since it’s counterproductive. > > > So why delay? > > > > The argument of "moving sooner than ecosystem can handle" is also > > bogus in the same way. You mean versus the code sitting on the shelf > > and being released to nobody? > > Yes - sitting on the shelf is no good to anyone. > > Ok, what I’m hearing are good arguments for releasing 10.0.0 *now*, with > a Java 17 minimum - this is what is in _main_ today. > > If we do that, then we can follow up with _main_ later (after the 10.x > branch is created). That is, 1) bump _main_ to Java 21, and 2) decide > when a Lucene 11 is to be released (I would to see Lucene 11 ~1yr after > Lucene 10). > > This is Uwe’s proposal, earlier in this thread. > > -Chris. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > > -- http://www.needhamsoftware.com (work) https://a.co/d/b2sZLD9 (my fantasy fiction book)
