which is why i am saying it would be easier to decouple code tools from environment. That is, put them into the build process .
if we could relax some of the checks on top of it to degree they actually agree with sun style autoformatter in eclipse, that would be super-great (those are mostly things like spaces in comments and some wrapping choices which are for some reason construed differently by checkstyle and eclipse styles). I don't think there are many, if, perhaps, any at any given checkstyle settings. On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Ted Dunning <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't want to ignite a flame war since (a) and (b) are sufficient grounds > to stay with whatever you like to use, but > > c) I am not convinced of this > > d) IntelliJ has a free edition that works great. You can also get the full > version for free for use on open source projects. > > Like I said, this doesn't change your deep motor training. I would point > out that I have been through more generations of editing environments than > I can count over the last 35 years and while it has always been unpleasant > to change, changing to the next big thing has generally been worthwhile. > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Dmitriy Lyubimov <[email protected]> wrote: > >> And no, i am not ready to part with eclipse yet. a) years of reflexes >> hard to beat. b) it is the only environment that has a lot of other >> integrations that I use such as StatET (integrated R step-by-step >> debugger & help). c) faster native visuals. d) free. >> >> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Dmitriy Lyubimov <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > Yeah eclipse is a problem. Or checkstyle configuration. or both. >> > >> > I used to set up the checkstyle plugin that highlights the problems >> > but i never managed to get it to 0 since it contradicts sun >> > recommended formatting as set in eclipse styles (or even with >> > adjustments). So both tools aimed at style actually contradict each >> > other on what the right style is. Which tells me both are probably >> > overzealous in their assertion since apparently those assertions are a >> > subject of contention among authors of those tools. >> > >> > Eclipse concerns can be partially set aside if the maven build fails >> > and reports why it fails so I don't have to check in and wait for >> > Jenkins to shove it into my face. >> > >> > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Jeff Eastman >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On 6/11/12 7:39 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: >> >>> >> >>> It may take me a few days. >> >>> >> >>> How much do people care about Eclipse integration? Can I ignore that >> >>> for the moment? >> >>> >> >>> >> >> -1 No, I think Eclipse integration is important but I will devote some >> >> energy to helping here if I can >>
