Can we just focus on the bugs first. Its more useful to get static analysis in and make that a build blocker. Checkstyle is secondary and is a sensitive topic.
Robin On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Jeff Eastman <[email protected]>wrote: > +1 I feel the same way as Dmitriy > > > > On 6/11/12 6:39 PM, Dmitriy Lyubimov wrote: > >> which is why i am saying it would be easier to decouple code tools >> from environment. That is, put them into the build process . >> >> if we could relax some of the checks on top of it to degree they >> actually agree with sun style autoformatter in eclipse, that would be >> super-great (those are mostly things like spaces in comments and some >> wrapping choices which are for some reason construed differently by >> checkstyle and eclipse styles). I don't think there are many, if, >> perhaps, any at any given checkstyle settings. >> >> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Ted Dunning<[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> I don't want to ignite a flame war since (a) and (b) are sufficient >>> grounds >>> to stay with whatever you like to use, but >>> >>> c) I am not convinced of this >>> >>> d) IntelliJ has a free edition that works great. You can also get the >>> full >>> version for free for use on open source projects. >>> >>> Like I said, this doesn't change your deep motor training. I would point >>> out that I have been through more generations of editing environments >>> than >>> I can count over the last 35 years and while it has always been >>> unpleasant >>> to change, changing to the next big thing has generally been worthwhile. >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Dmitriy Lyubimov<[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> And no, i am not ready to part with eclipse yet. a) years of reflexes >>>> hard to beat. b) it is the only environment that has a lot of other >>>> integrations that I use such as StatET (integrated R step-by-step >>>> debugger& help). c) faster native visuals. d) free. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Dmitriy Lyubimov<[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yeah eclipse is a problem. Or checkstyle configuration. or both. >>>>> >>>>> I used to set up the checkstyle plugin that highlights the problems >>>>> but i never managed to get it to 0 since it contradicts sun >>>>> recommended formatting as set in eclipse styles (or even with >>>>> adjustments). So both tools aimed at style actually contradict each >>>>> other on what the right style is. Which tells me both are probably >>>>> overzealous in their assertion since apparently those assertions are a >>>>> subject of contention among authors of those tools. >>>>> >>>>> Eclipse concerns can be partially set aside if the maven build fails >>>>> and reports why it fails so I don't have to check in and wait for >>>>> Jenkins to shove it into my face. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Jeff Eastman >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 6/11/12 7:39 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> It may take me a few days. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How much do people care about Eclipse integration? Can I ignore that >>>>>>> for the moment? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -1 No, I think Eclipse integration is important but I will devote >>>>>> some >>>>>> energy to helping here if I can >>>>>> >>>>> >> >
