note that both checkstyle plugin and eclipse styles are claiming to have "sun java" style settings yet they do not 100% agree with each other. Which makes grounds to argument that differences are not as fundamental if they cannot be interpreted the same way by different implementors claiming working off the same spec.
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Dmitriy Lyubimov <[email protected]> wrote: > which is why i am saying it would be easier to decouple code tools > from environment. That is, put them into the build process . > > if we could relax some of the checks on top of it to degree they > actually agree with sun style autoformatter in eclipse, that would be > super-great (those are mostly things like spaces in comments and some > wrapping choices which are for some reason construed differently by > checkstyle and eclipse styles). I don't think there are many, if, > perhaps, any at any given checkstyle settings. > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Ted Dunning <[email protected]> wrote: >> I don't want to ignite a flame war since (a) and (b) are sufficient grounds >> to stay with whatever you like to use, but >> >> c) I am not convinced of this >> >> d) IntelliJ has a free edition that works great. You can also get the full >> version for free for use on open source projects. >> >> Like I said, this doesn't change your deep motor training. I would point >> out that I have been through more generations of editing environments than >> I can count over the last 35 years and while it has always been unpleasant >> to change, changing to the next big thing has generally been worthwhile. >> >> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Dmitriy Lyubimov <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> And no, i am not ready to part with eclipse yet. a) years of reflexes >>> hard to beat. b) it is the only environment that has a lot of other >>> integrations that I use such as StatET (integrated R step-by-step >>> debugger & help). c) faster native visuals. d) free. >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Dmitriy Lyubimov <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > Yeah eclipse is a problem. Or checkstyle configuration. or both. >>> > >>> > I used to set up the checkstyle plugin that highlights the problems >>> > but i never managed to get it to 0 since it contradicts sun >>> > recommended formatting as set in eclipse styles (or even with >>> > adjustments). So both tools aimed at style actually contradict each >>> > other on what the right style is. Which tells me both are probably >>> > overzealous in their assertion since apparently those assertions are a >>> > subject of contention among authors of those tools. >>> > >>> > Eclipse concerns can be partially set aside if the maven build fails >>> > and reports why it fails so I don't have to check in and wait for >>> > Jenkins to shove it into my face. >>> > >>> > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Jeff Eastman >>> > <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> On 6/11/12 7:39 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> It may take me a few days. >>> >>> >>> >>> How much do people care about Eclipse integration? Can I ignore that >>> >>> for the moment? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -1 No, I think Eclipse integration is important but I will devote some >>> >> energy to helping here if I can >>>
