Hi All, Sorry to hijack the thread. I am a newbie in mahout community - please pardon my words if anyone finds them unsuitable.
Its really strange to see such heated discussions between the Big Shots on the mailing lists. I am absolute beginner in this space and it does not leave a very good impression about the open source community itself. What I believe is - Open Source is about love of code and all awesome coders coming together - designing some of the coolest code projects on the planet as one *strong team*. Lets not break this belief of newbies. We are learning from you guys. The avengers should not fight. Best Regards, Yash On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 10:06 PM, Dmitriy Lyubimov <dlie...@gmail.com> wrote: > Well, let me tell my impression. > > Remember, we started talking impressions here all over the place, not > facts. So *don't ask me to prove anything.* > > i have an impression that mr. Dunning has masterfully concealed a very > targeted insult in his carefully worded statement with the sole purpose of > forcing certain participants to go into defensive and to turn a technical > discussion into trading insults, in which he has obviously partially > succeeded. > > I have an impression this has not been an isolated incident on mr. > Dunning's part in the past, and i have strong suspicion that it was the > wrong balance of technical merit and posturing in the project that drove > more than one accomplished committer or candidate out in the past. > > I also have been receiving an impression that I am next such target on > mr. Dunnings part just because my arguments are not technically favorable > where he needs them to be favorable for whatever other-than-technical > reason. I love the code in the project, that's in part why i am candid in > its discussions, but it is repeated agrumentum ad hominem from mr. Dunning > that is very close to driving me out. And I don't think beers can smooth > that. > > As for welcoming, well, h2o is not exactly new topic here. I also think we > need to have some bar for proposals to meet regardless of being welcoming. > > Finally, I have an impression everybody has areas where they possess less > than brilliant expertise; i actually like to say about myself that "it > pains me how little i know". I have no problem identifying areas of > weaknesses in myself publicly and don't consider this to be offensive, > since i know that the only way to improve knowledge is to first know where > it is lacking. I am very perceptive to strong logical argument regardless > if it fits my current world view or not. But I am particularly not fond of > rhetorical fallacies, informal ones in particular. I am not very fond of > marketing bluff or empty PR. It is a personal choice whether you accept > that mindset or not, but grading areas of weakness is not an insult. That's > what they do in universities all the time, after all. >