Mensaje citado por Daniel Carrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Anthony Long wrote: > > > So what do you see as the strategy for promoting OOo 2.0? If an SFX > > style campaign won't work, what will? > > Man! You took the words right out of my mouth! > > That was *exactly* what I was just starting to type. > > Yes, I see a strong, permeating attitude of "lets-do-nothing"-ness which > is incredibly frustrating. Ideas are shot down, but nothing new is > proposed instead.
We need to Zapp the org from OpenOffice.org it seems is half-beating. > It's very easy to shoot down an idea. After all, no idea is absolutely > prefect. It's hard to come up with an idea and make a suggestion though. > Especially when you know that whatever you propose will be shot down just > because. We need to stop asking for opinions and just do it. A lot of people think this is a dumbocracy and is NOT, is a meritocracy. The difference is that in a dumbocracy you need to ask a lot of dumb people and count them in. In a meritocracy you just do it first and then the dumb people will bash on you or greet you on your work. The difference is that things get done!!! > As I keep saying, we need to shift towards an attitude of *action*. This > project, OOo, feels *stagnant*. Fork is on the air... > It's like a death swamp around here. It's > everywhere. Let's get things moving for the love of God. I don't care if > the idea is perfect. If I don't have an improvement, then we should go > with it. If I *do* have an improvement, I need to seriously evaluate > whether proposing it is really worth the subsequent delay caused by an > endless thread of discussion. Or whether the project's better off going > with an idea which is not my ideal but it's *an* *idea* and is better than > doing nothing at all. > > I think that SpreadOpenOffice.org is a good idea. Alexandro has given an > example where duplication of ideas did not cause the latter to not work. > So let's go ahead and do it. > > Just to make sure I'm being clear here: > > I DON'T CARE if SpreadOOo is a perfect idea. > I DON'T CARE if SpreadOOo is just as successful as SpreadFirefox. > > But I really, truly and absolutely care that SOMETHING happens. Like I say > in my sig line: "I don't want it perfect, I want it tuesday". Just for the record I did already took this idea and implemented in the spanish project and we will soon have about 4 other OpenOffice.org-like sites providing the dynamic server script needed for people to go in. > The 2.0 release is only 2 months away. How much more time are we going to > waste in endless discussion? Are we just going to do nothing at all > because we can't decide to do anything in perticular? Agree site hasn't change at all. Not even an agenda has been stablished. - Homepage is still looks old - Testing of OOo 2.0alpha has been so so - OOoArt hasn't really picked up - Communication still fragmented between projects - Contributions has been rather slow (new developments) > OOo 2.0 is a spectacular opportunity to reach out the masses and we are > missing so much of it because of the strong negativity here and the strong > resistance to doing anything. Negativity is not the problem, we can have people that are always pesimistic, they are usually good in security fields. :D The issue is actually PRODUCTIVITY what bothers me. This rants are going to affect me and label me as a radical but the way I see it is that I havent seen many people stepping up BUT stepping down of the community and thats something that is really terrifiying. We are loosing the .org for the constant shutting down of ideas. > I don't know about everyone else, but I vote for action: +1 > > Cheers, > -- > Daniel Carrera | I don't want it perfect, > Join OOoAuthors today! | I want it Tuesday. > http://oooauthors.org | > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Alexandro Colorado Co-Leader of OpenOffice.org Spanish http://es.openoffice.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
