On 12/13/05, Louis Suarez-Potts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As this post concerns the OpenOffice.org project, I am responding to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and would ask others who will inevitably respond to > respond to this list. > > > Ryan: you also sent this note to the OpenDocument Fellowship; are you > representing them or OOo in discussions with Linspire? OOo and > OpenDocument Fellowship are not the same, of course, and their > interests are not identical.
Heather called me for OOo, both times. I brought up the OD Fellowship, as I am also involved with them. The call, though, was about whether or not I was interested in attending as OOo Marketing Contact, West Coast, in the capacity I did last year, and whether or not I could suggest to anyone else whether they would like to come. I brought up a few possible ideas of parties to invite. I will be attending this conference for OOo, but if other members of the OD Fellowship can make it, I would love to try to help them get a booth and even a spot on a panel. Context: > We had an extensive discussion on the issue, you recall, on the > [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. The thread: http://marketing.openoffice.org/ > servlets/BrowseList?list=events&by=thread&from=991649 I do. I recall that conversation being rather inconclusive, as Adam mentions. I am bringing it up again as the time is drawing nearer. On 2005-12-13, at 19:44 , Ryan Singer wrote: > > > Hello All, > > > > Update to the email I sent in September. Heather contacted me > > again today, and both OpenOffice.org and The OD Fellowship are > > invited to have a booth and propose speakers for this event. We > > spent a few minutes on the phone brainstorming, and I have a few > > items here that we discussed. > > > > 1. We should invite either SUN, IBM or possibly both as a joint > > thing to talk about Open Standards such as ODF driving compitition, > > and Open Source, such as OOo doing well in that competitive > > environment. (Bob Sutor, Simon Phipps, any suggestions?) > > "We"? You mean you and Heather? And aren't you getting a little > ahead of things? If I recall, discussions ended on [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with, "it is by no means clear that OOo as a project > is interested in going to DLS. So, your inquiries are necessarily of > the exploratory sort." I see they have progressed. In general, if > there are willing booth beings, going to a conference is pretty much > up to the group concerned. However, where OOo has to spend money (see > your #4), the situation differs, and we then have to evaluate: is > this worth it? Is anything gained? As far as I can tell, though there > was some good derived in the education area, it's not clear that the > conference really is worth the cost. Why not just go to the NEA > conference (or its cognates), and skip Linspire's show, especially if > they are not going to be funding travel & hotel; booth? As far as I could tell, a member of OOo volunteering to go to a conference and putting up a booth *is* the project going. As for the funding question, that is a good reason to bring it up on this list, no? I believe that Heather mentioned that Linspire could provide OOo with a booth, but not travel and hotel. My funding situation is better than it was last year, and I can make it without sponsorship, so at least OOo will have a MarCon, and maybe a booth, if I'm not alone. (FWIW, there is also the Southern California Linux Expo show around > the same time; that would seem to be more meritorious.) I have been having talks with SCALE 4x in my other capacity as a member of the Open Document Fellowship. While I agree that SCALE is a good conference to attend for OOo, unfortunately I cannot do that as I will attend for the Open Document Fellowship, and I would not want to bring up too much of a conflict of interest. SCALE is inviting many members of the state and local governments of California, and I think I could interface with that audience better in my Fellowship role. I would much rather devote funds to OSCON, and make a major presence > there, than Linspire's DLS, which caters to a rather narrow audience > and lacks the wide appeal of OSCON. Or even LWE, if we wish to reach > corporations. Which is the purpose of this thread, to decide whether or not we can devote resources to sponsorship for this conference. > > > 2. Linspire is interested in hearing proposals for technical > > discussions about OOo and / or ODF. Does anyone have any ideas > > they'd like to submit for a talk? > > I am sure Linspire is... but funding is not irrelevant here. If > people want to fund themselves, okay: that happens all the time. I wasn't asking your permission here, Louis, I was asking if anyone on this list had an idea they would like to present. Do you? > > > 3. Linspire is trying to branch out to education for this > > conference, so a talk about OOo and ODF in education (and in the > > business around education) is very much requested. Perhaps Ian > > Lynch would be interested in speaking at DLS this year? > > Were Ian to go, whom would Ian be representing? OpenDocument > Fellowship? Ingots? OOo? Up to Ian, I suppose. Everyone in Open Source wears different hats, as Adam pointed out, Ian stood out to me as someone I knew from OOo as well as in other roles who would be good for this audience. > > > 4. Finally, booth staffing and sponsorship. Who can make it with > > a sponsor, who can make it without one, and who is willing to > > sponsor who. Please only reply to the mailing list with responses > > to this part as I don't want to flood the people I've CC'd on this > > message. > > I am not sure, Ryan "we" want to make it. Other venues seem to have > more appeal, have more weight, and will also benefit corporate > sponsors more. well, if "we" means me, then I'll at least make it, is anyone else from the OpenOffice.org community interested in attending? How about from SUN? The INGOTs? Collabnet? the OD Fellowship? I would welcome anyone willing to help. > > > 5. A panel discussion about the recent success of ODF and where > > things are headed has been floated. I would love to see Gary > > Edwards on such a panel, in addition to whoever SUN and IBM sent. > > Perhaps you would love it from the OpenDocument Fellowship > perspective? Perhaps you ought not to have so linked the > OpenDocument Fellowship's interests with OOo's here? As far as I recall, Gary is an active member of the OASIS TC representing OOo. I would love it as a person, in all of my volunteer capacities. I don't see my OD Fellowship interests as incompatable with my OpenOffice.orgones, especially when it's because I want to see a speaker who is also part of both communities. > > > 6. Any suggestions for DLS this year? Last year went very well in > > my eyes, Linspire only has the venue for two days this time, so we > > don't have time to repeat the Regi-con, but I would love to make > > this a successful conference anyway. > > I think it went well for the participants--they enjoyed themselves > and bonded--but I do not think we should attend this year. There are > other conferences with greater appeal, among developers, endusers, > and corporations. I think it would be a mistake for OOo to attend > this year's. OpenDocument Fellowship, of course, which Ryan also > represents, can do as it pleases :-) Why do you think it'd be such a mistake? I can understand you thinking that the money has a higher priority elsewhere, but if an OpenOffice.orgvolunteer wants to attend, why is that bad? -- > Louis Suarez-Potts > Community Manager > OpenOffice.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- _________________ Ryan Singer Marketing Contact, West Coast USA OpenOffice.org
