hello,
On 2005-12-14, at 01:53 , Ryan Singer wrote:
[snip]
I do. I recall that conversation being rather inconclusive, as Adam
mentions. I am bringing it up again as the time is drawing nearer.
Indeed, though Adam did not say, "inconclusive". The conversation
ended by asking you to be exploratory.
On 2005-12-13, at 19:44 , Ryan Singer wrote:
Hello All,
Update to the email I sent in September. Heather contacted me
again today, and both OpenOffice.org and The OD Fellowship are
invited to have a booth and propose speakers for this event. We
spent a few minutes on the phone brainstorming, and I have a few
items here that we discussed.
1. We should invite either SUN, IBM or possibly both as a joint
thing to talk about Open Standards such as ODF driving compitition,
and Open Source, such as OOo doing well in that competitive
environment. (Bob Sutor, Simon Phipps, any suggestions?)
"We"? You mean you and Heather? And aren't you getting a little
ahead of things? If I recall, discussions ended on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with, "it is by no means clear that OOo as a project
is interested in going to DLS. So, your inquiries are necessarily of
the exploratory sort." I see they have progressed. In general, if
there are willing booth beings, going to a conference is pretty much
up to the group concerned. However, where OOo has to spend money (see
your #4), the situation differs, and we then have to evaluate: is
this worth it? Is anything gained? As far as I can tell, though there
was some good derived in the education area, it's not clear that the
conference really is worth the cost. Why not just go to the NEA
conference (or its cognates), and skip Linspire's show, especially if
they are not going to be funding travel & hotel; booth?
As far as I could tell, a member of OOo volunteering to go to a
conference
and putting up a booth *is* the project going. As for the funding
question,
that is a good reason to bring it up on this list, no? I believe that
Heather mentioned that Linspire could provide OOo with a booth, but
not
travel and hotel. My funding situation is better than it was last
year, and
I can make it without sponsorship, so at least OOo will have a
MarCon, and
maybe a booth, if I'm not alone.
Actually funding is handled by the Community Council, by default.
Marketing has no funds, independent of that.
[snip]
Which is the purpose of this thread, to decide whether or not we
can devote
resources to sponsorship for this conference.
Hmm. I am not sure then this is the best means. As I communicated to
Heather and just now to Adam, the Community Council will look at
this, as we did last year.
[snip]
I think it went well for the participants--they enjoyed themselves
and bonded--but I do not think we should attend this year. There are
other conferences with greater appeal, among developers, endusers,
and corporations. I think it would be a mistake for OOo to attend
this year's. OpenDocument Fellowship, of course, which Ryan also
represents, can do as it pleases :-)
Why do you think it'd be such a mistake? I can understand you
thinking that
the money has a higher priority elsewhere, but if an
OpenOffice.orgvolunteer wants to attend, why is that bad?
Mistake:
1. Money: there are other, better, conferences to attend. DLS is
Linspire's show and limited by that. It has minimal credibility.
Other shows, such as OSCON, even LWE (more a suit fest now), have
more recognition. If we must sponsor people to attend a show, then
let it be worth it.
2. I did not say that unfunded people can't attend. I said that I
think it's a mistake for OOo to fund people to attend. One can go, to
be sure, as we attend and present at conferences all the time,
without OOo funding. Should one present on behalf of OOo, then we
ask that the presenter represent OOo.
As to the OpenDocument fellowship/OOo: they are quite different and
do have differing interests, though obviously there is some overlap.
But: OOo is about open source; OpenDocument Fellowship is not.
Louis
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