Hello, On 2006-02-04, at 13:06 , Ian Lynch wrote:
On Sat, 2006-02-04 at 18:38 +0100, Steven Pauwels wrote:These recurring discussions mean that there is a need... and the CC refuses to egnoledge this need.Seems so - glad you said it not me though ;-)maybe we could use moodle? Nice and adaptable, but I am sure there areother tools. If we need hosting with php and mysql support, I will provide it.Maybe there should be a fundamental re-think about how participationoccurs. In education here all the talk is about Web 2.0 and it changingthe paradigm for learning because students can freely form their own learning communities and easily collaborate to create new information.Wikipedia shows that you can give more freedom than was thought sensibleand by opening up the contributions more resources come to the table. There has been quite a lot of talk about Wikis - maybe its time toanalyse all aspects of the project and decide which essentially need to be secure through SSH tunnels etc and which can be openly participativeWiki-style. There is a potential reduction in costs for Sun in doing this because it reduces the demand for Collabnet. That of course might be a political thing in that Collabnet might not want to reduce its contribution but even if the same resource was committed better value would be achieved because that resource would be more focussed and onewould therefore expect better quality in that area of the work. Hostinga Wiki is really trivial, getting one started is trivial, thenon-trivial bit is to get agreement from the CC to do it under the nameof OpenOffice.org. Personally I can't see any disadvantage in things like the marketing project and documentation projects being wikis.Probably a number of the others too but I don't know enough about them.The advantage would be that it would be easier to contribute and any lowering of the barriers to participation has to be a good thing.
I'm kind of lost here... we *have* wikis. I have pointed members of this project to our main page and we (the OOo community) use the site a lot:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Main_Page So, what is the problem, then?We have used them for writing press releases and for other marketing things, like synchronizing the 2.0.1 release and now will surely use it for the 2.0.2 release and beyond. We also use it for other marketing related things.
You might also want to look at the recent discussions in the CC. We touch on the things you mention.
Best, Louis
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