Hi,
Steven Pauwels wrote:
Ian Lynch schreef:
<snip>
maybe we could use moodle? Nice and adaptable, but I am sure there
are other tools. If we need hosting with php and mysql support, I
will provide it.
Every software tool has its own limitations. At first sight all tools
that we cannot use look like the *ideal* tools. :)
If we had for instance moodle installed by CN from the beginnings (5
years ago), are we sure that everybody would've been happy and nobody
asked for more and more tools once new features were needed ?
The real trick is how we put to use the tools we have.
<snip>
Wikipedia shows that you can give more freedom than was thought sensible
and by opening up the contributions more resources come to the table.
<snip>
We do have the same software installed as Wikipedia and we can use it
for marketing. Why is it not used ? The Wiki therm has become pretty
synonim with freedom lately. But are we able to take advantage of this
freedom properly ?
Hosting
a Wiki is really trivial, getting one started is trivial, the
non-trivial bit is to get agreement from the CC to do it under the name
of OpenOffice.org. Personally I can't see any disadvantage in things
like the marketing project and documentation projects being wikis.
Probably a number of the others too but I don't know enough about them.
The advantage would be that it would be easier to contribute and any
lowering of the barriers to participation has to be a good thing.
The real *PROBLEM* is starting and continuing to use the wiki we
*already* have for some months now.
This implies changes in the workflow to organize what is in there. It
lets us actually establish a good workflow for Marketing Project, keep
track of documents, contributors, have collective development of
documents, etc. Wiki software allows discussions alongside with the
document development which is also great.
Let's take for instance the list of contributors and their skills which
was requested on another thread:
Having a wiki page with it in which each contributor can add
himself/herself with skills, availlability, etc should be trivial.
Who would like to initiate that page and maintain and advertise it to
newcomers ?
Other thing would be to maintain a copy of the Marketing ToDo list in
the wiki. The page on the website can be updated through copy/paste on a
regular basis.
One tiny example of the wiki usage by a subproject of the Marketing
project is in Art Project (to quote Bernhard Dippold on this):
====
There we started a sandbox for Art related themes:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_Art_Project
In there we just have three pages
1. A To-Do-list with some kind of brainstorming:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoArt--Project_activities_planning
2. A (now quite finalized) draft on the OOo logo license:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoArt--OOo_logo_license
3. Tables that will contain all the artwork spread over Issuezilla to
sort it and update the Art Galleries afterwards:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/List_of_Artwork_%28IZ%29
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So, to repeat myself, what we actually need is:
- coming up with a real workflow in the MP
- implement in the wiki style the current common workflows
- initiating the wiki pages for the Marketing Project
- organizing them in categories so that one does not get lost when there
will be too many
- encouraging usage and completion through wiki of the current and
future tasks.
- the finalized documents should be uploaded on the main OOo site on a
regular basis.
Lowering the barriers to participation is the first thing to do... The
CC has to open them!
They are lowering day by day, but it seems that this should be
advertised better so that everybody sees it.
:-)
Best,
Cristian
Steven P
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