Hi!
I have small time but I would like to answer. I sent a mail to the four.
Here is my letter:
"
Dear Martin, Pavel, Laurent and Stefan!
(Please CC my letter to any interested people.)
First of all: I do not want to hurt OpenOffice.org in any way.
I am a contributor of your project. I sent some small patches, advanced
gfx-es, etc. and also we transtaled the Hunagrian version of
OpenOffice.org with András Tímár (HU NLC) based on OpenOffice.org 1.1.x
translation.
I like this project, I use this application in every day, an try to
promote to my contacts (private and business too). I started to expand
original OpenOffice.org because many users complained about the lack of
essential accessories like cliparts, fonts, templates, etc. They appear
all of OpenOffice.org's competitor. I want to help them so I created a
separated installer for Windows. I offered it on your mailinglist but
after some letter this thread is died. It was confusing to me. Later, I
dig more and more into OpenOffice.org source code (mainly scp modules)
and found the way how to pack these thing to the installer. I felt happy
because it makes the first time installation more easy. I created the
first version (2.0.1) of OpenOffice.org WHAT? I do not want to differ my
things from original OOo. Yes, it can be Premium because it sound well.
Of course it could be Plus or Professional, but they are somehow M$
related... Then I saw Hungarian users like the idea (if not they can
always download the original).
(We have a special status. It is true, we have an original OOo builded
by SUN, but these are not fully fit the special Hungarian requiment.
Look issuezilla for details. 61007, 61008, bitsteram vs dejavu font for
example)
Thean we back to work and created OpenOffice.org Premium 2.0.2. It was
bigger, and also users liked it. We improved the compability a lot with
original OOo source. We started to use localization, so we were able to
release English version... More useful things (for example from go-oo).
The project got more known in Hungary. Many many downloads, publised on
3 country wide PC mags (each more than ~30000 issue)... So We decided to
keep working on OOo 2.0.3. I registered page on sf.net and We published
2.0.3 here. Before that I filled and issu abour Premium integration to
OOo. I known this is a long term process. Then Pavel and Rene asked me
to divide it into smaller parts. I did. But after that nothing happen.
So this is my story. Of course we want to build 2.0.4 version of
OpenOffice.org Premium.
About the problems:
There might be a licensing problem with some part of OOoP. We collected
the and put to Petr's Wiki information about templates (
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Feature_-_Templates):
Many templates comes from OOO's Documentation project, OOExtras, OOo's
Distibution project
1. Templates
1. OOo Distibution's project release a Extras CD (for 2.0.1)
where included templates from original StarOffice 5.2 CD
that went free - the original owner of these templates
(around 18 templates) is http://www.templatezone.com/. I
tried to contact with them but my question is still unanswered.
I tried to contact to templatezone many times. I also asked Sun
dist team (Alex), and others (Scott Scarr, Stefan). I still
haven't got answer. Of course I would be very happy if you can
help me to clear this part of story.
2. Cliparts
1. Cisco's Network Topology Icons - Cisco has allowed me to
pack their icons with OpenOffice.org. They asked me to warn
use to not to modify these standardised iconset.
http://www.cisco.com/web/about/ac50/ac47/2.html The license
is easy and clear: "Cisco icons are globally recognized and
accepted as the standard in network icon topologies.Use them
freely without alteration."
I do not know if we including this content it causes any licensing
related problem. If we Packing stuffs with LGPL stuffs is
violating anything? From end users viewpoint these are a good
quality icons and they can freely use it... From Cisco viewpoint
changing icons are bad because they are a standardised inconset in
Cisco communication...
3. Fonts
1. Ray Larabie has allowed me to pack their fonts with
OpenOffice.org. He has a different license. His homepage is
here: http://www.larabiefonts.com/ - FAQ:
http://www.larabiefonts.com/help.html
Same as above:
I do not know if we including this content it causes any licensing
related problem. If we Packing stuffs with LGPL stuffs is violating
anything? From end users viewpoint these are a good quality icons and
they can freely use it...
Of course I not aganist to put problematic files to web and make it
available via Wizard like downloader (like FontOOo) [Larabie font is
already there]... But if you look cliparts it have a binary dependency.
It is binary itself and it require binary file mdifications and resource
files for proper localization. My installers do this but I do not see
the way in case of donwloader.
About naming
I wanted to add a name that show its roots. OpenOffice.org Premium seems
to me prefect. After some feedback I have to change at least the last
tag to Plus or Professional or something similar because a meanings of
Premium word. Idea?
Yes, I know Pavel asked me to change it fully, and if you Martin ask me
I will do it. If yes you can submit me a good names... But we want to be
side or sub project of OOo, so our main goal to be integrated into OOo
as requested.
62405 FEATUR P3 All [EMAIL PROTECTED] UNCO OpenOffice.org Premium
integration - Gallery (1/4)
62406 FEATUR P3 All [EMAIL PROTECTED] UNCO OpenOffice.org Premium
integration - Fonts (2/4)
62407 FEATUR P3 All [EMAIL PROTECTED] UNCO OpenOffice.org Premium
integration - Templates (3/4)
62408 FEATUR P3 All [EMAIL PROTECTED] UNCO OpenOffice.org Premium
integration - Samples (4/4)
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=62405
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=62406
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=62407
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=62408
I know the not all developers like the idea, but lot of end user like
it. I do not think Premium compilation should be the default, but it
should be available for everybody as option in one installer and also in
optional pack too. The last linux packages come from the current build
system. 2.0.3 creates premium packages based on its category. I can
build again optional installer for Windows also. But I prefer all in one
installer. So think it about it, and think on the possible way of
future... I would be very friendly with OpenOffice.org becuse I like it.
"
If you have more question do not hesitate, ask.
Best regards,
KAMI
