Bernhard, Kami, thank you for bringing things back to the point. You actually analyzed things correctly. I will say it again because it seems few people understood what I was asking here: there was no blame on Kami and his team. I know the work they do, I/others just wish to change the "premium" name if possible.
I know the reasons why the Premium version came to existence, and it is justified by licensing problems. I'm not that of an expert in the matter, so if there is way, let's look into it, but unfortunately I was under the impression that few could be done. So my question was, as it turns out, a question about the press releasing an article speaking about something that is not "OOo approved" or whatever although we do know it and know Kami. The article was making broad shortcuts, and if you notice, couldn't help reminding us that OOo was unsafe. This is why I thought that we should have reacted. Thanks, Charles. Bernhard Dippold a écrit : > Hi Charles, all, > > As I don't know if Kami reads [EMAIL PROTECTED] I CC'd him to point him to > this > thread. > > Charles Schulz schrieb: >> Chad, Ian, >> >> FYI: The templates that were bundled with the "OpenOffice Premium" thing >> contained: >> - a map of India that doesn't seem consistent with what India claims to >> be its borders (see Kashmir) and that doesn't seem consistent with what >> the UN says >> - cliparts with nazi symbols, whose very presence inside a software is >> illegal in many countries (not in Hungary though). >> >> So the point is that we could have tried to make a more collective work >> out of this and we didn't, and I'm not trying to blame somebody. > > Kami told that he removes both as soon as he got notice of it. So this > is not the point IMHO. > > In my eyes it's the licensing problem mentioned at the issues he filed > WRT his work: > http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=62405 to 62408. > > Parts of his additions are not "open" in the full sense of our > licensing: They are not allowed to be modified. If others are licensed > under GPL I don't really remember. > > Fact is that he wanted his improvements to be included in the main > distribution and this wasn't possible because of the licensing > restrictions. > > These restrictions are not to be overcome easily, so Kami started to > distribute his expanded version via sourceforge. > > The naming of his version should be known by everybody as he announced > it in January [1] and May [2]. Even if the January mail didn't make it > to this list (probably misread as SPAM on moderation), his mail from > May, 25th was clear and didn't get any replies here. > > So if we see any marketing implications by the name OpenOffice.org > Premium, we should discuss it with Kami - he is an active member of > OOo and I'm quite sure he has an ear to our concerns. > > Best way for all sides would be to include as many of Kami's additions > as possible in the main distribution - and for the templates and > cliparts not compatible to LGPL (or a third party license, if > applicable) create a macro like DicOOo to include them manually. > > Then there would be no need for a "premium" version (and the official > version would not be downgraded by comparing it with "Premium"). > > If this way would be possible from marketing POV, we'll have to > convince people experienced in licensing questions to have a look at > Kamis extensions and to convince developers to code and integrate the > patches (I think, Kami would help here). > > Just remember: > - OpenOffice.org Premium has been done by community members and is a > workaround because some of the additional items can't be integrated in > the main distribution. > - It's neither a fork, nor an attempt (IMHO) to divert people from OOo > to anything else. > > Just my two cents... > > Best regards > > Bernhard > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
