Hi Juergen,
Juergen Schmidt a écrit :
Martin Hollmichel wrote:
I like and support this idea,
me too and i support the idea as well.
Thank you very much for your support too !
I was a big fan of StarOffice4Kids project
Same for me : Long time ago, I even asked for see the sources, but for
some reasons, I never found them. Long time after, when the need became
obvious for the Eucation Project to provide an Education oriented office
suite, I was very early in contact with Stella Schultze, to discuss with
her about design issues, and some other reasons I don't remin exactly.
And indeed, she suggested to have a look at StarOffice4Kids.
with more or less the same idea.
I agree I "derived" StarOffice4Kids name, to create the OOo4Kids one.
Indeed the idea is similar. I don't know ho wthings where done with
StarOffice4Kids, but we have decided to strictely follow what the
teachers ask (in fact, they must demonstrate every need). Did you the
same ? Can you tell me more about that ?
Nevertheless, there is at least one big difference : because of the slow
/ poor / old machines most of the schools have, we decided to not use
Java ( StarOffice4Kids is mostly Java if I'm not wrong), but maybe was
it only a prototype ?
Formally : create a new branch, completely independent of , including
milestones, like OOo does
what do you mean by completly independent ? I would expect that this
branch should kept in sync with OOo releases ?
Work on the same things should be done on the same code base. For example Eric talked about performance. Edu performance projects could be
seen as sub projects of the performance project with a special focus on educational things, maybe driven as university project ...
In my vision of the Education Project working on performance issues,
there are - I'd say - gurus, who do constitute the Performance projects
core. On Education Project side, mentors and students who respectively
teach and learn the good practices, and, for the best of the students,
work on performance improvements. When the idea, and the resulting code
will be enough, we'll join the performance meeting, and propose our work
to be evaluted.
To be frank with you, I have some doubs yet another project/sub-project
will help there (ihmo there is no need to complicate more), but I can be
wrong.
The really new stuff from a user perspective is the interaction with this
specific user group kids, the OO users of tomorrow.
Not only : the teachers are involved too. Most of the scheduled changes
have been proposed by them, and without them, nothing would have been
possible (they know better than us what is possible).
Other extremely important thing: OOo4Kids is the way to enter in schools
with free software.
This is from my point of view very important and can be partly achieved or addressed
with a customizable UI.
I think this is not sufficient. We need to implement more than what we
have today, and integrate more Education specific contents and so on.
Believe me or not, but the only thing people want (not only teachers),
is : simplify the UI. On MAc OS X side, this is the rule 20% visible /
80% hidden law.
I would expect the same code base but customized for the specific needs of kids. A minimized feature set and a kids related UI etc. A special
branded and customized OpenOffice version if you want.
Yes, something close to that. But new features will be proposed
(starting 2.x)
Anyway it's a very good idea and i will support it where i can.
Thanks again :)
Eric
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