Cor Nouws wrote:
> Hi Bernard, André, *,
> 
> Bernhard Dippold wrote (27-9-2009 0:49)
> 
>>> [...]
>>> What does it help, if OOo introduces new icons, but never ever spoke
>>> with other members of the "ODF application family" if they would join?
>>> [...]
> 
> IMO this is one of the most important things. However, Lars suggests
> that the process "may take several iterations."
> So in my words: making a good start soon is better that waiting for the
> (close to) perfect solution.

Maybe the OOo art and ux projects would be more apropiate than marketing
for the discussion of icons.  OOo is known to all the stakeholders as
well as the opponents.

> Maybe a possibility is to discuss this in Orvieto, where most ODF
> stakeholders will be present?

I see at least two non-stakeholders / opponents present at Orvieto on
the organising committee.  Some provision to remove the two, plus their
compatriots, to somewhere they cannot get in the way or do more damage
is needed.
        http://www.odfworkshop.nl/main_20091102-03

Same for proxies via Novell and other partners.  They'll want to 'help'
aka D.O.S.  For any progress to be made, they need to be eliminated from
participation until they *have* demonstrated reform, and no need to
waste specialists on them until *after* that.

Regards,
-Lars

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