Hi,

Definitely, the new release can’t wait too long. Besides, for a PostgreSQL user 
install PostGIS is feasible, but I don’t discard the option that in the future 
GeoSPARL could be pluggable. It will be like a packet manager. It not just 
helps GeoSPARQL module but also other modules 
that will appear in the future.

So, I choose second option.
b) +1

Cheers.


> On Jun 8, 2016, at 10:20, fernando baculima <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi all.
> 
> I think it should be mandatory.
> 
> For users who want to use PostgreSQL, somehow, it wouldn't be complicated
> to install extensions like PostGIS.
> 
> For those who use the default database (H2) or other, I guess there won´t
> be any trouble
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 2016-06-08 3:02 GMT-05:00 Sergio Fernández <[email protected]>:
> 
>> So, summarizing, we have two options:
>> 
>> 1) Spend some more time (hard to estimate) to get GeoSPARQL optional
>> 
>> 2) Forget it and make it mandatory
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Sergio Fernández <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> TL;DR optional GeoSPARQL support is so dirty to implement, so I want to
>>> discuss what to do.
>>> 
>>> as the last part to have GeoSPARQL in KiWi (MARMOTTA-584[1][2]) merged
>>> into develop, in the last days I've been approaching (fighting) to make
>> the
>>> need of PostGIS option {MARMOTTA-638 [3]) and try to finally work on a
>> new
>>> release with this feature.
>>> 
>>> As discussed [4], the advantage of getting MARMOTTA-638 done would be to
>>> lower the update requirements (i.e., if you don't want GeoSPARQL you
>> would
>>> not need to have PostGIS extension installed in PostgreSQL).
>>> 
>>> The disadvantage is that complicates quite some the implementation: as we
>>> extensively use prepare statements you would need to have two db schemas
>>> (one with a fake geometry, another one with an actual geometry), which
>>> complicates everything. Locally I have a path I'm very unsatisfied with
>> its
>>> quality, and I'm pretty sure will be the source of many issues in the
>> near
>>> future. Therefore I; m not completely sure I want to continue that path,
>>> but I think it's an aspect that requires further discussion.
>>> 
>>> So, summarizing, we have two options:
>>> 
>>> 1) Spend some more time (hard to estimate) to get GeoSPARQL optional
>>> 
>>> 2) Forget
>>> 
>>> My vote now goes to the second option, because: a) it make the source
>> base
>>> far more maintainable; b) after all PostGIS is widely supported and
>> trivial
>>> to install; and c) this feature is blocking 3.4.0 for too long. But I'd
>>> like to listen to the opinion of the community to really decide what to
>> do.
>>> What do you think, guys?
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your time.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MARMOTTA-584
>>> [2] https://github.com/apache/marmotta/tree/MARMOTTA-584
>>> [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MARMOTTA-638
>>> [4] http://markmail.org/message/3u55tk4xe4g2qgoa
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Sergio Fernández
>>> Partner Technology Manager
>>> Redlink GmbH
>>> m: +43 6602747925
>>> e: [email protected]
>>> w: http://redlink.co
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Sergio Fernández
>> Partner Technology Manager
>> Redlink GmbH
>> m: +43 6602747925
>> e: [email protected]
>> w: http://redlink.co
>> 

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